Corgana

joined 2 years ago
[–] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

Yes very well said all around and I agree, especially about consent. I also have to assume that a statistically significant portion of Lemmy users have been banned by multiple reddit communities.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

Oh wow, now that's very interesting.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think it was extremely positive though obviously the people who were excluded by the decision might say otherwise. That said, I think it's preferable for online communities to have a clear picture of what they're supposed to be (as opposed to just chasing popularity), with a mission statement (public or not) and for mods/admins to have the strength to enforce boundaries. Trying to please everyone leads to banality, and tolerating too much bad behavior pushes out the people who give a shit.

I liked to use the metaphor that internet mods are best when they behave as "party hosts": provide the space, make sure everyone is having a good time, kick out anyone who's bringing down the vibe, but other than that let people be messy and do their messy human things.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

More instances need to be aggressive with bans, IMO. There's no reason the average user should put up with someone being deliberately obtuse, especially when it comes to politics.

If we for once, leave politics outside of niche and hobbies communities, this place would be way way better.

I think rather than asking users to behave a certain way (impossible) or asking mods to work with increasingly long meandering rulesets, we just accept than any topic can be political and it's in how users discuss it that makes a place tolerable. And people have different ways they like to debate. Some people do really enjoy the bickering and fighting.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

We banned all image-only posts on /r/StarTrek on Reddit a long time ago, not because we didn't like memes or because they can't spur good discussion, but because any place that allows memes and images to be posted tends to become overrun with them and it's hard for more intentional human-human discussion to stand out.

That decision pissed a lot of people off, but we mods felt bad for all the people earnestly engaging with thoughtful high-effort content only to be ignored because their posts were never seen. I think on the Fediverse we have an opportunity to start fresh and focus on human-human. There's no karma here anyway!

EDIT: more to your point I would like to see more "slow" instances pop up but I think that's going to take some time.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Get you a show who can do both

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The most difficult parts of moderating on Reddit aren't the trolls or spammers or even the rule-breakers, it's identifying the accounts who intentionally walk the line of what's appropriate.

IMO only a human moderator can recognize when someone is being a complete asshole but "doing it politely", or trying to push an agenda or generally behaving inauthentically, because human moderators are (in theory) members of the community themselves and have an interest in that community being enjoyable to be a part of.

Humans are messy, and finding the right balance of mess to keep things interesting without making a place overwhelming to newcomers is a fine balance to strike that I just don't believe an AI can do on it's own.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

He's not really dead. As long as we remember him.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 4 points 1 month ago

Exactly. Block and move on. Don't twist yourself into knots appeasing people, focus on keeping the users you want happy.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Not trying to victim blame or anything, but I find it hard to believe that someone operating a low-moderation instance would truly expect people who don't like moderation to stay away.

Don't get me wrong I agree with your sentiment and dislike that behavior, but what I'm saying is that asking or expecting users not to go on witch hunts or to behave in a certain way is a fool's errand that will always lead to burnout. A more sustainable approach for admins and mods is creating space for what they want to host and not trying to control what they don't.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago

It seemed fine to me....

....oh my

 
 
 
 

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