DeezYomis

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[–] DeezYomis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

this bald fraud is ruining the game, there'd be no need to call him or VAR out if they did their job

[–] DeezYomis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

What's the point

as with most political banners, internet ultras points, attention from the press and "credibility" for "defending their values".
Extensive media coverage of every single controversial banner and internet hooliganism have made it so that even the shittiest and tiniest ultra group can make a 20€ banner to go viral amongst circles that cover stadium politics and, if it's bad or controversial enough, even beyond that to the point where things make it to, say, big newspapers or reddit.
All this does bring the group a lot of visibility and """"positive"""" coverage hence the reason why you're constantly reading about this type of banner made by ultras groups from plastic clubs who are starved for any bit of attention and respect.

Also the left has basically fled the stands in droves between the 70s and 90s all over Europe, there's a few exceptions but most of these people genuinely hold these beliefs so writing them out for the world to see is kind of a win-win to them

[–] DeezYomis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

thanks for the kind words!

As for the derbies, I think that statement does somewhat ring true even today but by comparison we've been in a sort of enlightened era since the 90s with cups, european football and even scudetti. By most firsthand accounts and most of my research, people used to say and actually mean it much more around between the 60s and Viola's presidency when there literally wasn't anything else to play for other than dodging relegation, most notably as Anzalone's rometta. The mid 70s in particular were wild, by the time Lazio was banished to the curva nord Rome was one of the hearts of the ultras movement and most of our seasons revolved around whether we could Lazio on or off the pitch, preferably both, and mostly, so did Lazio's when they weren't too busy shooting each other or playing in Serie B. I personally can't stand them but while these derbies sound crazy I'm somewhat glad we're both bigger clubs now

[–] DeezYomis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Se avessi dovuto parlare in modo dettagliato dei problemi giudiziari di ogni squadra avrei dovuto fare un post chilometrico a parte ma non so quanto interessi alla gente che Viola ha provato a pagare un arbitro di coppa nell'anno della finale. Su calciopoli ho provato ad essere più breve possibile ed è lì perché più o meno "apre" tutto il processo che ha portato agli scudetti un po' come lo chiude specularmente il caso plusvalenze (lo schema è circa scandalo-retrocessione/anni di merda-scudetti-anni di circa merda-scandalo).

[–] DeezYomis@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they were promoted to 4th because Juve got penalized

 

part 1 part 2 part 3

this man fears no international break

## 5. Atalanta

the club is actually named after the greek heroine hence the badge

Based out of Bergamo, la dea is the most successful club not to win a Serie A title and the latest club to rise through the midtable and achieve european football outside of the traditionally bigger clubs. In fact, talking about Atalanta without talking about its recent experience under Gasperini would be a bit pointless: a journeyman manager, Gasp was hired by the orobici in June 2016. The club had made it back to Serie A after yet another scandal and had languished in the lower half of the midtable for the past 5 years. In Gasperini's first season, they achieved an historic 4th place, with his intense and attacking back 3 and 2 man midfield serving as an inspiration for the rest of the league.
And it wasn't a fluke either, through sheer physicality, offense ~~a shit ton of doping~~ and great scouting, Atalanta has been a staple of the european spots for the past 7 years, achieving two CL berths and a few participations to the Europa League. These past 3 season have seen a slow change of the guard but the team's form has been consistently pretty good and they now sit one point short of the CL spots

Player to watch: the returning Gianluca Scamacca, who's back from a less than stellar season at West Ham under Moyes, a great goalscorer with good technique and bulk, Italy's (future) 9 has already scored 5 goals despite some injuries that have seen him skip around half his available minutes so far.

## 4. Napoli

man this would have been hilarious a few years ago

The reigning champions after 33 years, Napoli has one of if not the most passionate fanbase in Italy and is one of the few clubs to have had a player who is still worshipped as a god in Maradona. Last year, they took the league by storm under current NT manager Luciano Spalletti and achieved a historic scudetto win after decades of waiting while playing exciting football spearheaded by the duo of Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia. There is, however, another figure tied to the club almost as much as Maradona is to its mythos: owner Aurelio De Laurentiis. Tales of how insufferable his negotiating tactics are have reached far beyond Napoli's social media presence while his antics have made him one of the most hated owners in Italy despite his undeniable success, saving Napoli from bankruptcy and taking them to titles and honors. ADL triggered a clause in Spalletti's contract without asking, leading to the tuscan manager's departure, followed shortly after by the newly acquired Kim leaving for Bayern who triggered his release clause. Without a manager and CB, ADL waited and waited until he eventually chose his usual MO of hiring/buying the cheapest acceptable replacements: in came brazilian "kind of wonderkid" Natan and Rudi Garcia, who had recently been fired by Al-Nassr.

This immediately led to a drop in form, even when compared to the end of last season, far less exciting matches and worse results, which immediately prompted the sacking of Garcia and his replacement with, once again, the cheapest option in Walter Mazzarri. Mazzarri was at the helm when Napoli rose through Serie A in the 2010s but has since had a huge downturn in his career. The reigning champions now sit 10 points short of the lead and look out of the title race, this season's target will be staving off the challengers for that 4th Champions league spot.

Player to watch: Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, the georgian Maradona, was bought as (the cheapest) replacement for the outgoing Insigne and immediately took the league by storm with the talent that had half of europe scouting him in Russia and Georgia before the war. After a stellar first season despite a dip in form, Kvara's charming brand of football doesn't seem to be a one-off as he's on track to improve on his output. A can't miss talent and one of the most exciting talents in the league.

## 3. Milan

it's Milan, not AC, calling them AC is like calling Liverpool \"FC\"

One of Milan's two giants, Milan is an absolute titan of italian and european football. 19 league titles, 7 CL victories and a few Coppa Italias to boot, il diavolo is one of the 3 biggest clubs in Italy that serve as our version of the Barca-Bayern duopoly or the prem's big 6. While they were already a huge club, a significant part of Milan's success comes from the decades under ex-PM Silvio Berlusconi's ownership, to whom they owe 5 (!) CLs and 8 scudetti and a slew of iconic players, BdO winners and absolute stars, led by iconic captains Baresi and Maldini who formed one of the best defensive lines of all time. With Berlusconi's political downfall however, came time to sell and the 2010s weren't kind to the rossoneri with the biggest banter era most fans can recall unfolding between Allegri's title win and the start of Pioli's stint who, together with now-DoF Maldini sparked the change necessary to take Milan back to the top and whose highest point was winning a very tight scudetto race against local rivals Inter in 2021-22.
After a fairly bad 22/23 that had them 5th on points, Milan's season so far has been a bit of a mixed bag with good results against great clubs including PSG, wasted points against any low block and a 5-1 humiliation in the local derby. Pioli seems to be on borrowed time as Milan sits just 3 points above 5th.

Player to watch: Rafa Leao, I don't really have to say much about him, just google a compilation of his skills or something. Milan's entire attack relies on him cooking up something and more often than not, it just works thanks to his sheer talent. This season he's being supported on the right by Christian Pulisic (US mentioned!) and the trio with Serie A's sexiest goalkeeper Olivier Giroud seems to be the only 100% functional part of the team.

## 2. Juventus

I think this badge is one of the worst things the Agnelli family has done and that list includes enabling war crimes

The biggest club in Italy, full stop. The bianconeri have won 36 league titles, 14 cups, 2 CLs and a bunch of other things and are consistently the most supported, successful and hated club in Italy. Owned by the Agnelli family (FIAT's/FCA/half of Stelantis/a bunch of other things' owners) for the past 100 years, the club hailing from Torino is a perennial challenger for the title despite its tendency to be a bit creative with their interpretation of the rules. In fact, Juve recently went on the longest run of consecutive titles which was more or less bookended by the calciopoli (ref bribing) scandal in 2006 which saw them relegated and stripped of titles and the much more recent plusvalenze case which showed how the tail end of the dominant run was partially made possible by inflated and fake trades. The recent scandal saw Juve lose 10 points last season which, coupled with a ban from the conference league, has them primed for a comeback to the title for the first time since 19/20. In his 3rd year of this 2nd stint at the club, Juve's manager and football equivalent of ISIS Allegri has managed to keep the team much closer to Inter than in the past two years and seems to be the most credible threat to an otherwise likely Inter dominance on this season

Player to watch: Federico Chiesa whom you might remember from Euro 2020 where he looked like Utd Ronaldo. He's back from being out injured for almost a year and seems to have regained a lot of confidence, his blistering pace and his great technique. A beast of a player and easily on the tier of Kvara and Leao in Serie A's current "my winger is better than yours" pissing contest

## 1. Inter

yet another victim of modern football

Milan's other club, Inter splintered off from Milan in 1908 over their choice to hire international players as opposed to Milan's policy of only hiring italians. Inter has a solid claim to the title of 2nd biggest club in Italy through a century of consistent success and, notably, having never been relegated as opposed to Juve and Milan who were both punished for their involvement in major scandals. Ironically enough, Inter also had a banter era in the 2010s, though they snapped out of it earlier than Milan under Antonio Conte, who led them to their first title since Mourinho's iconic treble. Inter seems to be the most well-oiled machine in italian football right now: the team is great and relatively young, DoF Marotta is an absolute legend in the field, manager Simone Inzaghi and his affinity for cup competition has seen Inter win 4 cups and reach a CL final in the past two seasons, almost always at the expense of Milan. A league title seems to be the only thing that's missing from Inzaghi's stint at the biscione and so far, the results make a scudetto seem likelier by the day, with the 2 point lead over Juve soon to be either expanded or nullified by next week's clash against Juve

Player to watch: Mkhitaryan but unironically: Inter has a ton of young can't miss talent like Lautaro or Barella and yet the heart of Inzaghi's system has been Mkhi at CM, who's taken over Calhanoglu's role with the latter being pushed back to replace Brozovic. The man's turning 35 soon and yet he's starting even over new signing Frattesi. Don't sleep on him and make sure not to miss out on his last "serious"seasons.

BONUS TRACK: derbies and rivalries

Salernitana-Napoli: a local rivalry within the region, Salerno itself is split between the two clubs and things have been heating up, especially after Salernitana spoiled Napoli's scudetto party

Empoli-Fiorentina: another local rivalry without much to report

Torino-Juventus: Torino's derby, though a bit of a one-sided affair in the recent years, is always an exciting and heartfelt match

Sassuolo-any of the big 3: Universally hated, Sassuolo tends to show up at any bigger club, win some points in their stadium and then immediately drop them the following week to some relegation candidate

Fiorentina-Atalanta: a cool exercise in how hatred works, Fiorentina's ultras started out with a mild dislike for Gasperini and the end result is that now the two fanbases fiercely hate each other

Fiorentina/Napoli-Juventus: both clubs hate Juve because they tend to show up and buy their best players on top of hating them for the reasons everyone else dislikes juve (they win a lot and there's often something shady about them). While one-sided in theory, Juve fans also seem to hate those two clubs to a lesser degree

Milan-Inter: Milan's derby though not particularly exciting in terms of how violent it can get is one of the biggest derbies in Italy and often ends up being a title decider

Juventus-Inter: the Derby d'Italia is the biggest match in Italy and the respective biggest rivalry of both clubs, especially between non-local fans. Definitely watch these matches.

Roma-Juventus; Roma fans hate Juventus for the usual reasons and for a few extras like manager Capello leaving to join them or a phantom offside in a Roma-Juve that cost us a title

Roma-Lazio: probably the most heated derby in Italy, both clubs often didn't have anything to play for the entire season other than bragging rights in the derbies and it's a very tough affair, the hatred between the two clubs is strong but the atmosphere on those weekends is absolutely crazy

Roma-Napoli: the current biggest thing between italian ultras and a fierce rivalry even without that aspect, a friendship once broken turned into mild disinterest when the two clubs ended up in separate divisions only to quickly go back to a flashpoint as soon as they were reunited and now the sheer hatred between ultras and constant actions against the other have made it an absolute dumpster fire of a matchup, albeit an interesting one

 

~~Yes I know the order is a bit messed up, the league refused to stop for a weekend to keep it accurate while I was writing the rest~~ Part 1 Part 2

I can't think of a witty intro so look at this funny picture of Diego Llorente to get in the mood

I don't know why but the first 20 or so results are him clapping while staring into the void and they're all different pictures

## 10. SS Lazio

SS stands for Società Sportiva despite what some of their ultras' lettering would have you think

The oldest ~~and smallest~~ club in Rome, Lazio is one of the most iconic clubs in the league, be it for their insanely good late 90s squad or their incredibly scuffed league winning team from the 70s, their fierce rivalry with Roma, or their slightly right-wing fanbase. Regardless, Lazio is a side that gravitates towards european spots, with a culture of somewhat attractive football and a mix of cheap gems and seasoned veterans.

After the heights of the Cragnotti ownership and the woes of the transition to the Lotito era, Lazio went from bankrupt to midtable to cup winner and eventually started a fairly successful cycle in the mid 2010s which saw them win a few cups, mount a challenge for the title in 2019/20 under Inzaghi and more recently a return to the Champions League with a distant 2nd place last season off the back of a very convincing season by centre backs Casale and Romagnoli and GK Provedel.Maurizio Sarri of Chelsea and Napoli fame has a huge challenge ahead of him in his third season: Lazio changed their sporting director after 15 years and lost their best player Milinkovic-Savic to Saudi side Al-Hilal while the age of recordman Immobile, midfield bulwark Cataldi and creative wingers Felipe Anderson and Pedro is finally catching up to them.A slow start to the season and the midfield's woes make another 2nd place look like a pipe dream but 4th place is only 4 points away after a 0-0 draw in today's derby.

Player to watch: Luis Alberto, Lazio's magician, a mezzala with a wand of a foot who's been the heart of the biancocelesti's buildup for the last few years. With Milinkovic-Savic gone, his lack of physicality is being exploited more often but the spaniard has so much to his game that Sarri has restructured his midfield plans to enable the former Liverpool man rather than benching him, in a season where even Lazio legend Immobile isn't safe from being rotated.

## 9. AC Monza

I'm sure the sword is a reference to something but it's cool even without context

Winners of the 21/22 Serie B playoffs, Monza is playing its 2nd Serie A season ever and the biancorossi look like they're here to stay after a shocking 11th place in their 1st season after promotion. There is a huge caveat to this though: Monza was bought in 2018 by none other than former Italian PM and builder of AC Milan's dynasty Silvio Berlusconi and his trusted condor Galliani. With this financial might and talent at the helm, Monza went on an absolute spree over the past two seasons and so far, the results (after a short disastrous stint under Stroppa) of Palladino's men speak for themselves: Monza is a solid midtable team with a ton of young talent, a passionate fanbase and a points average that has them sitting right outside of the european spots. After a rough summer where they lost some of their better players and their owner Berlusconi, pundits and fans had Monza slipping towards the lower end of the midtable but so far they've managed to improve on last season. 7th place looks impossible...unless?

Player to watch: Andrea Colpani, who started this season with a bang, 6 goals and an assist in the first 12 as Monza's AM are insane numbers for the former Atalanta man, good enough for a NT call up by Luciano Spalletti even. Having seamlessly taken over from the injured Caprari, Colpani is having his best season yet and is carrying Monza's attack on his back, long may it continue. Goalkeeper Di Gregorio and cb Carboni are both worth mentioning here, don't be surprised if they pop up at a bigger club in a few years.

## 8. Bologna FC

nothing to report here

Hailing from your Erasmus friends' favorite Italian city, Bologna is another fallen Serie A giant with 7 league titles to their name. A staple of the midtable, the Felsinei enjoyed a decent run of form in the past few years, carried by their intensity and youth under manager Sinisa Mihajlovic, who was "sacked" as his battle against cancer worsened, leading to his passing during last season's WC break. Heartbroken but under the management of former midfield maestro Thiago Motta, Bologna turned around their shaky early season form and achieved a solid 9th place, right at the heels of Fiorentina, and are one of the most in-form squads of 2023. The momentum has carried into the new season just fine, with Motta's men sitting 3 points short of 4th, right at the upper echelons of the league. 8th place won't be good enough for a UECL berth next season unless Juve figures out another way to spend the season in court, but with the way they're playing, a shocking return to Europe might be in the books

Player to watch: Joshua Zirkzee and his skills and first touch, Zirkzee is the type of striker that tends to resonate with most of us football hipsters no matter the results. After Arnautovic's departure for Inter's medical center, pundits and fantasy football experts were worried about the hole left by the austrian but the former Bayern player seems to have figured out how to score just fine and has already doubled last season's tally. I don't know if he'll ever score more than 15 but if he does, make sure you won't miss it.

## 7. AS Roma

I miss the old badge

~~The greatest team in the world~~ Rome's club, Roma was founded in 1927 under the orders of a bald fraud to give the capital a team that could fight with the northern giants, which it has been consistently trying to do for the better part of a hundred years with mixed results.With the most recent league title in 2001 and a 14 year long trophy drought ended by the victory of the inaugural Conference League, the giallorossi have spent the past 5 years more or less licking the wounds inflicted by the deadly combination of owner Pallotta and DoF Monchi after the historic CL run that fell one handball short of a 7-1 humiliation at the hands of Real Madrid in the final. Since July 2021, none other than Jose Mourinho has been at the helm of the club and while the results in the league have been suboptimal to say the least, winning a european title, painfully losing the EL final in the following season and an influx of higher caliber players like Lukaku and Dybala have put a lot of eyes on the club, the team then promptly started this season in shocking form though the ship seems steady right now.

Mourinho's contract is up in June, 4th place is 3 points away and with Napoli looking so shaky, Roma might make a return to the CL after 5 years, but with how chaotic the club tends to be, relegation is just as likely.

Player(s) to watch: Diego Llorente and Edoardo Bove. Jokes aside, it has to be the attacking duo of Paulo Dybala and Romelu Lukaku, the former Juventus man landed in the capital as a hero and a free agent last season, delivering on the hype when fit while the Belgian striker flew a bit too close to the sun with Inter and Juve only to end up reuniting with Mourinho on a loan at Roma to replace the injured Tammy Abraham. While Dybala hasn't really performed past his injury woes at the start of the season, Lukaku has already scored 9 in all comps despite joining at the end of August. Roma might not score a lot but when they do, it's one of these two.

## ACF Fiorentina

I miss the old badge

La Viola is yet another Serie A giant you might already be familiar with, and if not, you might now Firenze, the city they play in. What they don't have in titles, they make up in passion from their fanbase and history, though there is something I haven't mentioned yet: the tuscan team has been on a great run of form for the past two seasons after almost facing relegation. Under bald fraud Vincenzo Italiano, they returned to Europe ending Atalanta's streak of European finishes and made it to the final of the 2nd edition of the Conference League while also making it to the Coppa Italia final (they lost both) and achieving qualification to this season's Conference League from 8th place thanks to Agnelli's creative interpretation of finance. After a very shrewd summer mercato which saw them replace both strikers, Brighton's next overpriced CB Igor and Ten Hag's latest "I know this guy" DM Amrabat for cheap, Italiano's men have been steadily picking up easy points that, coupled with a shocking win against reigning champions Napoli, have them tied for 5th and at the edge of the CL spots. With Italiano potentially leaving in June and shaky competitors, this seems like the perfect chance to return to the EL after years of absence.

Player to watch: Giacomo Bonaventura, whose current form shows that age is just a number (don't tell Benzema) and that class is permanent or at least it stays long enough to earn another shot at a spot in the NT at 34 after years of absence. 5 goals and 2 assists, all of which are bangers, great technique and an endearing story. Don't sleep on him

5 to go, see you tomorrow (??????)

[–] DeezYomis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Banning their tifo was fucking moronic but that's Rome's DIGOS and their schizo MO .

As for the rest, they've spent a day or so acting like morons while walking around escorted by riot police for internet hooligan clout points, throwing random shit at a family sector and stealing a fan club's banner from an old dude and his wife isn't even ultras behavior, it's straight up pathetic

[–] DeezYomis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

eh I'll take the 3 points, Dybala was shockingly bad, Pellegrini needed the goal and I'm starting to be fine with Karsdorp staying, Ndicka had a slightly better game than usual, Bove was really good on those 2nd balls unlike Frosinone's midfield. Patricio was once again awful, thank god he didn't have to do anything.

Having Lukaku also helps I guess