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[–] when_the_sun_rises@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] yaffle53@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

There's actually 3 genders in German grammar.

[–] Dykidnnid@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Insanel0l@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

For anyone wondering, it's Er/Sie/Es (He/She/it)

[–] ViciousNakedMoleRat@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (30 children)

One issue here is that "Geschlechter" was translated as "genders" in the headline, while the word can also be translated as "sexes", which does make a big difference. I'm not sure though what relevance the existence of two biological sexes has for those fans.

[–] UmCeterumCenseo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Where's the issue? From the context it's very clear they meant gender and not sex

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[–] DD_SuB@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Am I missing context? Why are they refering to a ";)"?

[–] R_Schuhart@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (36 children)

Bayer Leverkusen is seen in Germany as a plastic club by a lot of fans, mostly because they have distanced themselves from their working class roots. They have a family friendly atmosphere and stadium. As a result a part of the ultra fanbase is trying to distance themselves from that clean image by being edgy and coming up with shocking statements.

They have a cult mascot, "der Zitronenmann", they use as a "spokesperson to" say controversial shit trying to get attention and stay relevant. They have provoked and picked fights with rivals as well, mainly Bremen and Koln.

[–] Nutzer1337@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Bayer Leverkusen is seen in Germany as a plastic club by a lot of fans, mostly because they have distanced themselves from their working class roots.

No, they are seen as bad for the Bundesliga because they undermine 50+1 by being a works team for Bayer.

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[–] DaveShadow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (78 children)

What is it about anti-trans people that they are so fucking obsessed with trans people? Like, they make hating trans people a core tenant of their entire character.

[–] accomplished-crazy1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Trying for force something on people usually comes with a reaction

[–] getyerhandoffit@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

*tenet. But yeah, absolutely true.

[–] aquilar1985@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You could say ‘tenant’ since trans people clearly live rent-free in their heads.

[–] BrockStar92@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn’t a tenant be paying rent?

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[–] DaveShadow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Fuck. It tried to auto correct me to Tennant, cause I was talking about Dr Who recently. Had to fight it for tenant, but felt it could also be wrong 😂

[–] thehibachi@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The two groups that disproportionately shout louder than their ‘opposition’ are anti-trans people and anti-vegan people.

There are two genders and you’ve just eaten two steaks - I could not give less of a shit about your attention seeking bullshit.

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[–] h0rny3dging@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

trans ppl are one of most marginalized groups who also have barely any representation in the public media, its a prime target for bullying when youre a horrible bigot, online spaces turn more and more into violent echo chambers so ppl get radicalized harder and faster than like 10 years ago.

Those ppl spend a lot of time online and Twitter's new boss is openly pushig and supporting anti-trans voices for example. German Twitter is especially hateful and barely moderated.
Not to mention that a *lot* of Germans are still/again not rly socially progressive

[–] RITO_I_AM@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

barely any representation in the public media? bro are you crazy? they're grossly overrepresented. considering how much you hear about them in in on social media and media in general you would think they would make up way more than tops 0.5% of the population, but they don't. Come on man.

[–] trebor04@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

they don’t really exist in the real world

This guy has never been to a Smash Bros tournament

[–] SpeechesToScreeches@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

they don't really exist in the real world.

The fuck.

They're over-represented in the news because they're being used as a political tool by the right.

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[–] HardturmStadion@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Trans people are incredibly over represented in the public media

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[–] SuckMyBike@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Hating gay people isn't as popular anymore so the right has moved on to the next group they hate.

30 years ago they made banners like this about gay people instead. 30 years before that it was about feminism. The right will always find some group they hate and claim is destroying society.

[–] Kyyes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)
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[–] begon11@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Seems they have to go for ever smaller groups as well, in a 100 years all that’s left for the right to hate will be some dude named Thomas.

[–] TomCosella@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
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[–] the0rthopaedicsurgeo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Partly because they have no other meaning in their lives than to hate on other people.

And partly because they want to believe that they're onto the establishment's sinister plot - they're pushing LGBT+ on everybody and eventually it will be illegal not to cut off your dick.

But these brave heroes are awake to this crusade (you could even say they're woke), and think that by getting on the hate bus early, that they can point with righteous indignation that they tried to warn us but nobody listened.

Or they were wrong, and they hated a minority for no reason, which for them is a win-win situation.

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[–] zecira@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Imagine being so pressed about the existence of trans people that you make a whole banner about it to proudly display at a match like it's something most people in that stadium care to see? What's the point

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[–] Dykidnnid@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Relax, it's just a bunch of raging populist right wing Germans seeking to erase the existence of people they don't care for. When has that ever led to real trouble?

[–] MikeAAStorm@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Somebody remind them there's a difference between gender and sex

[–] Ryponagar@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

To be fair the german "Geschlecht" can refer to either gender or sex. Their message is pretty clear though.

[–] Frisko305@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That very basic biological fact is way above the mental comprehension of these knuckle-draggers.

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[–] Up_The_Mariners@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] hafrances@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] The_Big_Cheese_09@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

This will be a fun thread for a Monday morning.

[–] hafrances@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I am a Leverkusen hater now.

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[–] ElephantsGerald_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

But i was having a conversation on here recently where a Leverkusen fan told me that their ultras had zero right wing element! Surely I wasn’t lied to on the internet?

[–] Insanel0l@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean it's not the first time Leverkusen fans looked sketchy, makes me even more proud the Schickeria actively intigrated rainbow flags to their matchday material

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[–] Ch1ck3W1ngz@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Mate they can’t support a pharmaceutical company

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[–] Kimoa_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Factually right but a weird thing to bring into the stadium.

[–] Cyberpunk_Banshee@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (19 children)

"We're about to lose the best manager we ever had, how can we convince him to stay with the best fans in the world?"

"Lads I have a fantastic idea"

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[–] Jor94@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Everything like his should be kept out of football. You're there to watch football, not make political statements

[–] son_of_toby_o_notoby@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Being anti trans is so weird to me

Congrats mate u have kids killing them selves because you can’t understand their mind……just like how no one can understand anyone’s mind cause we are all fucking different people

[–] afito@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or rather, why not just ignore it? Not supporting it is one thing but to go out of your way to hate, all that energy, for what.

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[–] ves_111@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It is ridicoulous that these days event as blant and obvious statements like that one can be controversive and offend anyone. Next up: Water is wet

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[–] Mitch_Itfc@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why though? Whoever organised this seriously needs their hard drive checked, absolute weirdos

[–] YadMot@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Terfism is such brain rot that it ends up infesting every fibre of your being. People like Rowling and Linehan have no purpose nowadays other than hating trans people. It's such an insidious grift

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[–] HardturmStadion@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why the fuck did they have to put that onto a Tifo. Rent free in the heads of this bigot cunts.

[–] wanhakkim@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it's technically the truth.

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