Digit

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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 4 hours ago

Wouldn't that merely be responding to tone?

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 4 hours ago

Yup, it is problematic when others keep their arguments nearer the bottom. But at least your argument will have been valid. Even if they do attempt childish suppression.

One can even reference Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement, and some will still remain on the attack at the bottom. As just happened to me on another thread on lemmy. It harms their credibility, and their cognitive ability.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

The chart does not cover fallacies like strawman arguments. Perhaps that's around a corner of the "pyramid", on a side not shown.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

Could be not even on the chart, or could be suppression.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 5 hours ago

Orwellian language of the oppressor. But beyond that, yes.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the thoughtful response.

sometimes there comes a point where all parties realize that there’s just no common ground, or what little there is has been charted. You say one last thing, then it ends.

I suspect (or perhaps am being wishfully optimistic), this may be confirmation bias, and that common ground and progressing dialogue can be rediscovered.

whittled me down to agree after all? That’s where it becomes slightly abusive* imho.

We are each not our arguments, and it serves the dialogue and exploration/search for truth, to rest in this non-attachment. But yes, there's much risk of misfortune and succumbing to compellingly argued wrongness, failing to find adequate counterargument in a timely manner.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 21 hours ago

Hah! I didn't even notice the missing r, even after seeing the more recent saute joke from someone else. N1

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 21 hours ago

And I don’t personally see any fucking reason to own a copy of my music.

And reading that was when I stopped moving the cursor to the upvote arrow. ;-)

But that's fine, so long as when you own nothing, you're happy. ;-) /s

I see owning a copy of arts as performing part of a duty to the future, increasing the resilience against the book burners and history re-writers.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 21 hours ago

I have the music I made on my computer ~ well, technically on my external storage hard drive. And so, I don't need to stream my music. ;-)

But then, some argue such things as https://soffmimuhod.bandcamp.com/ may not even qualify as music.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Hope better, higher.

Hopefully you can raise it to centrally refuting the point.

Or at least to counterargument, above mere contradiction.

 

Is this a faithful recreation of the version of Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement with 2 additional bottom levels?

 

Started on a whim. Is actually useable.

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