Drewelite

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[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My analogy makes it clearer to highlight a point. But you're right that Honda wouldn't shut down if these regulations are passed. But It could be that the companies they're partnering with are giving them a cheaper rate on infotainment systems for a cut of the data that's collected. If we made Honda produce two Civics. One that steals your data and one that is just $200 more expensive, then we fully educate people on why the more expensive version is better. And then they STILL chose the cheap data miner. Then taking that option away with regulation is wrong. I might not agree with consumers here. But the reality is that they might just not agree with us about what's important. Enforcing a choice because we "know better" isn't right.

If the majority of people come together to push a regulation because it's something we don't even want to consider when purchasing electronics, then great. I'm just not sure that's the case. And I think we get into trouble jumping to regulation on every issue because often what people say they want, isn't really what they want.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I agree that people can't learn everything about every market. But what people care to learn about and pay attention to counts for something.

Imagine your friends are trying to decide on a place to eat. You suggest a very healthy restaurant where all the food is listed with ingredients and their source farms. But then someone says, "Eh, I wanna save money. Let's do Taco Bell." You explain that that's an objectively worse decision. That food health is really important. That in the long run, eating unhealthy actually costs more in medical bills. But they decided to go to Taco Bell.

Putting your foot down and demanding the healthy option might objectively be the "right" choice. But in reality, they'll just get Taco Bell on their own time and resent you for taking their choice away. People have to be presented with the information and decide for themselves or they'll just resent the institution enforcing the choice.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Did you just read the last sentence? Lol. AFTER proper education about the risks of lack of data privacy, if they still don't care then so be it.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Well you are voting with your wallet, the only problem is you've been out voted. Honda makes good automotives and part of the "price" now is people giving them their data. People just don't understand/care enough to not want to buy a Honda. If this were really a big deal to people it would open a place in the market for new automotive companies like Rivian, Lucid, or Polestar to gain massive ground by not doing this.

This is an education issue. We need to inform people about the dangers of a lack of data privacy. If they still don't care, then so be it.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

So why aren't there reddit apps that do the same?

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I'm just gonna pile on here. So it sounds like you haven't played it. Because as someone who has, it's a ton of fun and this article is just saying it will get even better because it's being supported by the devs.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago

I think what it comes down to is some people have a fundamentally different way of thinking about it. Myself included. Setting my intention on something far in the future doesn't necessarily mean I actually intend on achieving it. In fact, I'm almost 100% sure that I won't. Given enough time, I'll be a completely different person. Holding myself to what the younger version of me decided is foolish.

If I end up not being able to financially support a business I started, but I successfully provided for myself with it for years and learned a lot, it's still valuable. If I spend 20 years in a relationship that ends, but it leads to greater self-understanding and helps me build better relationships in the future, it was worth it. It's conceivable that a person could live an entire life doing things that you would classify as failures. But also feel completely satisfied and happy with it. So that suggests it might be a flawed perspective, no?

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 6 months ago

I mean, it's nice to hear some regret. Maybe other CEOs will take note... Probably not. But maybe

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 6 months ago

The only way PC gaming is not affordable to the average person is if they're playing AAA titles. I have a GTX 780 worth ~$60 that I still use to play many indie titles like Party Animals, Planet Crafters, Stardew Valley, Lethal Company, Content Warning, etc.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This is a false equivalency. The correct analogy would be: if I think about murdering someone and then draw a picture of it or make a movie about murdering them, is that wrong?

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago

It takes more effort to prove the truth, then it does to create a lie.

And this universal truth, that's existed since the dawn of time, will now have to be reckoned with. The ease of use is exactly its undoing as something that has power over us. When anyone can do it, it all just becomes background noise.

[–] Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Well that's exactly the point from my perspective. It's really shitty here in the stage of technology where people are falling victim to this. So I really understand people's knee jerk reaction to throw on the brakes. But then we'll stay here where women are being harassed and bullied with this kind of technology. The only paths forward, theoretically, are to remove it all together or to make it ubiquitous background noise. Removing it all together, in my opinion, is practically impossible.

So my point is that a picture from an unverified source can never be taken as truth. But we're in a weird place technologically, where unfortunately it is. I think we're finally reaching a point where we can break free of that. If someone sends me a nude with my face on it like, "Is this you?!!". I'll send them one back with their face like, "Is tHiS YoU?!??!".

We'll be in a place where we as a society cannot function taking everything we see on the internet as truth. Not only does this potentially solve the AI nude problem, It can solve the actual nude leaks / revenge porn, other forms of cyberbullying, and mass distribution of misinformation as a whole. The internet hasn't been a reliable source of information since its inception. The problem is, up until now, its been just plausible enough that the gullible fall into believing it.

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