FlowVoid

I'm not talking about the primary. I'm talking about the general election we just held. There were plenty of Senators running for re-election, including Bernie.

Nearly all of those Senators won more votes than Harris. In other words nearly all won over Harris voters and won over some non-Harris voters on top of that.

But not Bernie. Unlike the other Senators, he failed to outperform Harris. So it's clear he doesn't have some magical power to win the votes of people who don't vote for Democrats. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Bernie can't bring out people who don't vote. If he could, he would have won a lot more votes in Vermont.

Ah yes, defeat Trump by appealing to conservatives. A time-tested strategy.

I read it. A list of failures.

Even Bears fans are more resilient than leftists. But that's fine, you can just pack it in and show yourselves out. I don't think anyone will notice.

Then we agree it's not multiple decades.

And 10 years is nothing. The anti-abortion movement set Dobbs into motion in the 1990s, when they put Thomas on the SCOTUS. Their work only paid off 30 years later. Your "movement" doesn't have the kind of patience necessary for success.

It really was mostly performance. If you ask someone today, "What did OWS want?" they will likely be unable to tell you.

you seem to think its impossible to win an election and not do well in your home state.

That's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying there is exactly one data point that directly compares Bernie to Kamala, and it shows more support for Kamala than Bernie.

And since that is the only place where they can be compared, there is no evidence at all that Bernie would have more support than Kamala in other states.

right wingers constantly allign with people like Bernie

There are right wingers in Vermont too. That's why their governor is a Republican. Yet among all the people who voted for Gov Scott, there weren't enough Bernie supporters to make a difference.

In other words people were willing to vote for Harris and a Republican governor more than they were willing to vote for Sanders. He simply does not have the support you think he does.

Right wingers do not constantly align with AOC. There very few Trump + AOC voters, she was just interested in hearing from them.

So people were literally voting for Harris, but refusing to vote for Sanders. Whereas nearly everywhere else, people voted for their Senator but not Harris.

That tells you all you need to know.