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Someone's morals push them to dictate having the 10 Commandments in classrooms. My morals push me to oppose that happening

It's not like we must choose between a law mandating everyone must do something or a law mandating its forbidden. There can also just be no law or some nuanced law. It's not black or white. Saying you're against a law requiring the 10 commandments being in all classrooms doesn't mean you support a law banning the 10 commandments from all classrooms.

I'm a vegetarian. If I asked everyone to sign an initiative called "stop killing animals" that sought to make it illegal to sell animal products wouldn't that make me a dick for trying to dictate what companies can sell and what people can consume? You think it's morally wrong to shut down an online game. I think it's morally wrong to eat an animal.

There's nothing wrong with voicing your opinion, but trying to push through a law that conforms to your moral view of the world is weird. It's exactly the same mentality of people who want it to be the law that the ten commandments are in every classroom.

I'm fine with having more consumer protection and making it clear if a company is selling ownership or temporary access. Right now it's often not clear and that is definitely an issue. But completely making the sale of temporary access illegal is just strange. If you dont agree to temporary access, then don't buy it. There are many games that are being sold DRM free, you own them completely, and they'll work forever. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy something they don't agree with.

My guess is he wants to monetize the onlyfans posters. "Subscribe to my subreddit for $5 a month!"

The exact opposite happened to me. My work was having an employee appreciation BBQ and said they'd be serving hotdogs and burgers. I packed my own lunch since I'm vegetarian. I ate my lunch in the cafeteria alone to avoid explaining why I wasn't eating hotdogs and burgers. I went out after to hang out with everyone and as the BBQ is ending the manager threw out a bunch of food and staff were like "Woah what if someone wanted to take those home??" And the manager said "they're veggie dogs and burgers. I guess nobody is vegetarian here". He even said he made sure the meat was kosher/halal so anyone could take part in the staff appreciation BBQ. Like...bruh...thank you.

Is that repository required by law? Is every author and director required to follow it or be punished? What if an author only publishes it on their website and then takes the website down and it never makes it to the archive are they in trouble? It's a nice thing, but mandating it as law is ridiculous.

I'm being specific because this is being intended as a law everyone must follow. "All games need to be available forever" is very vague. How will this vague law be applied in practice? People brought up the idea of eternal code preservation. Alright. How does that work?

I'm not picking a fight. I want supporters to explain in vivid detail their expectations because it's clear not even all the supporters agree on how it would be implemented. Some said it doesn't apply to MMOs. Some said it does. It needs to be one or the other. That's not being pedantic, it's being realistic.

And every single game dev would be required to do this for the thousands of games released every year? Who would host this massive repository? Who would determine access on a case by case basis? It's a nice suggestion but mandating this as a law everyone has to follow? Why? I thought this was about consumer protection

I agree with that. That's what I meant in my original comment that applying this to all games is ridiculous. Subscription based MMOs are a game but this initiative shouldn't apply to them.

But the FAQ on the stop killing games site specifically says this applies to MMOs. That's why I disagree. Specifically for the part about MMOs.

Right, so an MMO charging a monthly fee shouldn't need to make their game available to everyone if they stop charging people the fee and shut it down? Because that's what I think too.