Jiggle_Physics

Hey, it happens, as long as you can look back at yourself and realize it, it's cool. Everyone struggles with this shit, I know I have a big issue with it myself.

I hear about that woman getting jail time for that on the regular, I don't know what you are talking about, I see it one headlines from mainstream sources too.

Also, people can be mad about multiple things at once

I didn't say it was misogyny or racism either. You made a claim with out evidence, and I told you what I have read, then asked for your counter, since you seem to have one, but now you say you don't, so you pulled it out of your ass, just like you claim I did. Pointing out white, older, men, were the big portion of those who sat out, was to point to interests outside of gaza, namely economic ones.

I am not a liberal, I am just able to recognize that most people in the US do not actually, truly, care about gaza. I can care all I want about stopping genocide, and it wont make a damned bit of difference to the greater population around me who, vocally, didn't vote for her, mostly due to economic reasons. Also, you are just projecting that it was YOUR strong conviction that made them not vote for her. Maybe, just maybe, you are out of touch with the fact that most of the US is not particularly progressive, or leftist. Doesn't matter that I want a leftist system. The dominant conviction was that she dropped the ball in reaching out to people about how she intended to make their personal struggles, better.

I also don't believe that you don't give a fuck what I believe, I see you everywhere, arguing with everyone, about this, and adjacent issues. Then, when you can't make a convincing argument, you call them liberals, claim you don't care, and run off to the next argument, about this.

Everything I see about the statistics of those who previously voted biden, then sat out harris, show the largest single demographic, by far, was older white men. You have anything to counter this? The gaza sentiment, while truly more popular than the powers that be wanted to propose, is a lot smaller, when leveled against the entirety of the non GOP voting population, than progressive venues, especially online ones, want to pretend.

As an example, not a single person in my mom's big social circle, most of which are not GOP supports, has said one damned thing about the genocide in gaza, and they talk about political issues fairly frequently, even if it is just snipes at someone. Their age/race/economic demographics make the largest portion of those who voted. In the spaces my family live in, down south, people in the their 20s are talking about politics, but gaza isn't much of a topic, and often when it is, they openly say things to show they need to worry about home, not gaza. The ones who differ are your classic WEIRDs. This same thing holds in a lot of the region I live in, the midatlantic/midwest appalachia region. These people lost her, or at least played a major part in losing her, the election in GA, and PA. They voted mostly based on how bad economic life is for them. They voted stupidly, and are now pissed that they made it worse, but it wasn't gaza that they gave two fucks about. The one place gaza, likely, truly damaged the harris campaign was MI, because it is second only to India, in muslim population, outside of muslim majority countries.

I think you are the victim of cultural bubble on this one.

15 million blank ballots is why she lost, but it doesn't say why those 15 million didn't show. If you think 15 million people, or even a majority of them, who are largely, older, white, men, did it to protest gaza, I got news for you. It isn't just the governments, and corporations, that don't assign value to palestinian life.

In a conversation about muslims who voted for trump, calling "them" stupid is calling muslims who voted for trump stupid, because muslims who voted for trump are the subject. Since you agree with that, it is your poor reading comprehension that is at fault. You abandoned the context of the "who voted for trump" qualifier and went off on a rant about bigotry.

Why did you ignore the subject of the conversation, you know, the context, so you could go off on a rant about how elitist, and bigoted, libs are? That is the only way you could have come to the conclusion you did. You have to ignore that the subject of the conversation is not muslims but muslims + who voted for trump. This is on you. You are the one in the wrong.

Yeah, the religion maintains the ignorance, but doesn't create it

Fascism is an inherently violent ideology. The language of the Fascist is power over others, enforced by violence. Quit defending it.

America in no way invented internalized bigotry

There are parts of the country who's poverty level, and access to utilities, medical care, etc., literally is third world. Northern WV has a lot of that, for instances. There are whole towns without plumbing, paved roads, electricity, etc. People living in shacks, no education, no reasonable way to leave.

I have a neighbor who voted for Trump. He relies on aspects of medicaid, to get insulin, that the GOP have directly targeted for removal from what it will cover. I told him this, he didn't believe me. So I showed him it in writing from a GOP source. He said that Trump will find some way for people like him to get their insulin. They just want this particular way gone because it's a bad method. I even pointed out that there was zero discussion of changing these policies, to make them more sensible, or anything like that, just an outline that they plan on stopping that coverage. He just doubled down that he won't be abandoned, they aren't just getting rid of the coverage, they are getting rid of THAT SPECIFIC WAY OF DOING IT because it is inefficient, or whatever.

If you explained that tariffs would hurt their income, and employment, in a way they understood, they would just assume there was something being cooked up to make sure that didn't happen. Now that all the manufacturing companies, here, are demonstrating that there will be big losses of profit margin, and cutting compensation to workers, they are mad. However, I personally doubt they will stay mad, or mad enough, or that they won't just end up blaming Joe Biden for it.

Yeah, this might be 750 dollars worth of bottom of the barrel, wholesale, oats needed to give the average horse enough calories to survive.