Kichae

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

There's no way to fight them on platforms where they are welcomed by the platform itself. Bluesky doesn't want to moderate its platform, so there is no fighting the Nazis there.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And we can do this all over again in a couple of years thanks to BlueSky's refusal to moderte its service, all because internet users refuse to thi:k abput how the internet works, and peoples addictions to being told what to read.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

The thing is, we've seen what the working class wants: Not concrete policy that will help them, but to have their feelings of struggle, outrage, and anger acknowledged and reflected back to them.

The Democrats could have radical pro-worker, pro-working-class reforms in their policy platform, but if what they're broadcasting is "things are great" energy, or "there are bigger fish to fry" energy, then they're going to get ignored.

The Democrat's talking points have focused on the health of American institutions. That's the thing they've repeatedly signalled is most important to them.

It's not what's most important to most households. It's actually pretty far removed from the top of their lists of concerns.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

Something something accusation something something confession. Someone should probably keep an eye on this one.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There will be a branch of government telling them what to do. It will just be the courts, as they're sued into oblivion by IP rights holders.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Well, who's going to hold them responsible, really?

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

Heaven forbid someone point out the reasons things suck and the ways we could do thibgs different, even if you know no one's going to change.

Better to just shrug everything off and tell folks "that's life, get used to it", right? That does a lot of good!

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would warrant caution and nuance when considering the effect of IdPol on these things. It's a term that's been abused and bastardized to high heaven, and it's a concept that the right has made ample, productive (for them) use of.

The politics of whiteness, the politics of masculinity, the politics of white masculinity, the politics of Christian conservatism, the politics of white nationalism, of Christian nationalism, of white-Christian nationalism, etc., are all IdPol. These are identity groups that the right has very successfully leaned on and groomed.

If you actually look at the Democrats, the Liberals, or even the NDP, what Identity Politics do they actually spout? What do they say that's such a turn off, with respect to IdPol? It's very little. Instead, what you actually see is them focusing on issues that matter to women, immigrants, and people of colour, but not to the exclusion of others.

But the right has used the fact that they speak of non-white, non-male, non-Christians at all and used it to reinforce the Identity Politics of the blue collar voter.

The aggrivated teenage sitting at the dinner table whining at you about how racist and imperialist the country is is not engaging in IdPol. They're engaging in the process of coming to terms with the fact that the world is not how it has been portrayed to them. But the rural Canadian or American voting against their interest because the party that is going to fuck them or their community over the most has done the work to sure up their identity as white, rural, and working class.

Their politics and support follows their identity, not their interests or policy preferences.

That is Identity Politics. And you're right, it's toxic.

It's just not what you were using the word to mean.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

She's a Canadiam citizen, but born in the Philippines and ethnically Philippino. In case you were suggesting she was First Nations, Inuit, or Metis.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

That's way more complex thinking that what people actually do around this. They think he's good for the econony because he's rich, or at least plays rich on TV.

CEOs may see him as good for business because rhey believe he'll make running their businesses cheaper, but the average Trump voter just sees "rich = good with money", because most people ultimately believe that the world is on some level fair, and if he's rich it must mean he got there fairly.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

The other thing that I'd add to this is that, post-pandemic, a lot of people have felt the pinch of shifting economic realities. A lot of decisions from years and decades past that have masked the costs neoliberal policies and corporate cost cutting have come home to roost, and it has left people feeli g stressed out and resentful.

They feel their quality of life and standard of living starting to slip, and they see the injustice of the system supporting their bosses, their landlords, and their banks, but not them. And they see who's currently at the wheel.

Because of this, they also grow increasingly resentful towards discussions of people who need help. They feel like no one is there to help them as the world shifts around them, and yet they have smug culture warriors telling them that they're worse than Hiitler for not thinking of people they'll never meet, half a world away.

Trump and Milhouse will not help them, but at least they will not tell them that they are not deserving. And that's more than what they perceive Democrats, the Liberals, or the NDP doing for them.

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