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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Neither is bad.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But instead we are arguing the semantics over whether a man should take responsibilty for his own bigotry or whether the entire global leftist project should bear that burden for him.

I'm not having that argument? I am sort of confused as to why you think I'm making that argument?

I think you're continuing to read me as appealing to pragmatism when I am instead appealing to learning from people who he respects on why he is personally wrong on the issue.

I would once again ask you, what specifically do you want to happen? If you're having a hard time articulating it, I would suggest looking at the constructive criticism handbook. https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-3/constructive-criticism.html?ref=redstarcaucus.org

Man is a person. He answers to a community. He’s not actually a party official of the revolutionary guard and you and I are allowed to demand better.

Demand better from him than providing free gender affirming care and legalizing gay marriage, affirming other alt family structures, proactively having a country do pro-lgbt education to root out cultural bigotry like in Cuba? I'm am somewhat confused by this statement? What does demanding better here look like?

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There can be no allyship with someone who understands our experience purely through the lens of political opportunism.

Do you think all pro-lgbt measures done in socialist states to be about political opportunism? Because in Cuba it took a multi-decade effort while struggling against the influence of the catholic church and colonial-legacy machismo culture to expand lgbt rights to the point that they're better than the US

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I'm saying his heart is in the right place but he has wrong-headed ideas. Given the guy follows a socialist intellectual tradition it is reasonable that you suggest he gets his head in the right place by understanding socialist social practice on the issue.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Honestly this is a really uncharitable reading of what I'm saying.

If someone ostensibly left-wing or socialist needs to read theory in order value my life and needs as a proletarian ally then they can necessarily be no ally of mine. More work needs to be done beyond tacit academic acceptance.

Except here it seems the guy does oppose transphobia generally but needs specific work done to advance his understanding of the issue.

And understanding social practice in other places to improve your own social practice isn't academic. It is not an ivory-tower-ass thing.

What other minority has to be vetted for their use before being welcomed into your so-called revolutionary project?

Socialist projects are doing better on lgbt issues because they are recognizing the old bigotry against lgbt people for what it is.

LGBT people aren't being used, except in the sense that discarding liberal bigotries in general helps make the system more robust.

I'm literally a trans person btw, I am approaching this from an angle of actually helping people remove their own bigotries. What is your solution here? What should dessalines do to get better on trans issues, concretely? If you're having a hard time articulating your criticism, I would suggest the constructive criticism handbook.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Yeah, it seems like he still has some political development on this front to do to chase out some liberal brainstorms.

I think the guy's heart is in the right place though, I think he just hasn't done the legwork yet on studying how modern socialist states are moving on lgbt issues and why they're doing so.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Underdeveloped take from Dessalines: the bourgeoisie love to promote bigotry while covering themselves in a cloak of progressivism

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're describing neo-colonial regimes that werent able to fully leave the imperialist economic structure.

Compare India to Cuba on women's and lgbt rights

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

what that would mean for women, gays, children, people of non-muslim religions, in terms of personal freedoms, etc

So the wonderful thing about anti-colonial movements is that even if they start right wing they have to get more left wing as time progresses, simply due to the power dynamics that are created through the process of throwing out the imperialists. Once you stop foreign oppression, you have a grassroots mass of militant and armed revolutionaries that you're accountable to and who get upset when you try to reproduce the same economic system. You also are tied at the hip to them as the imperialists seek a return to an old system.

This includes movements where there is no significant communist presence, but it happens faster when there are communists.

Luckily, the PLFP is the second biggest party represented in the Palestinian joint operations room and have significant military and political power, meaning that in Palestine it probably will take a lot less time to materialize.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Helping kick out US troops from a sovereign state that has asked for their help isn't an invasion though

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

You'll never be able to address climate change under capitalism- you have to push for socialism and then environmental protections. See: the percentage of renewable energy and battery storage that is being produced in China as they transition out of a mixed economy toward more worker control.

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