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It's also stupid expensive.

Clearly most people don't consider forced labor slavery in a prison environment. At least not in California or any of the other states that allow it.

I voted against it because I think they are plenty of prisoners that want to work, so we don't need to be forcing people, but I also understand how people could just consider it a part of the punishment too. I mean, you take away so many rights of a person when you imprison them. What makes this facet special? Is it because we used the magic word slavery and so people suddenly feel guilty because of America's past?

The prisons themselves litreally didn't care enough to even argue against it, which should tell you how little this actually impacts their workforce. My understanding was that people were just getting upset at having to do wildfire related work when things started getting dangerous after they reaped all the rewards and training for that job.

It's like being a firefighter for the pay, chili, and comradery, then balking when you are told to go fight a fire. Your average person could do that and probably be fired on the spot. Prisoners don't get to make that decision.

Wow that was a blast from the past! Still a bit of a banger too!

They didn't do anything about it the last time he was in office and just talked about a replacement plan that never materialized. What makes it seem more likely they'll actually remove it this time?

Serious question. I didn't really mean to make it sounds as snarky as it looks on a reread.

Yeah its so rapey, its almost unbelievable.

That only applies in shit states that allow that wage fuckery. There are several states where the minimum doesnt change based on whether the job receives tips.

This is one of the problems with the argument online. Too many off us have different realities around them. Where I'm at they get a pretty healthy minimum (~$17/h) + tips.

Being a waiter at a decent restaurant is quite lucrative in my area. I don't want to change that for the person, after all, the waiter is getting a cut off every check. It's like a form of profit sharing! However, I'd rather just have the prices on the menu reflect reality and the business handle all the dispersion of pay without me and my feelings getting manipulated for an extra 5% (after the previously established 18% tip standard was deemed too low by people who get tipped that for decades.)

To be fair, that's not the actual alternative for the waiter. The waiter either accepts their income as it is with some people not providing a tip, or they can opt for other employment like the rest of the workforce that isn't tipped. They don't have to sit at home waiting for things to change like helpless puppies.

I'm in California though so we don't have any of that wage fuckery where they can be paid less than minimum wage if tips make up a significant portion of their income. It's $17.55 hour minimum plus tips where I'm at.

I'd really rather see tipping outlawed along with all other obscured fees and just pay what you need to pay to have waiters and charge what you need to charge to have a business transparently printed on the menu.

I watched Last Action Hero a few years ago for the first time, and it honestly didn't even feel that dated. It held up!

I wouldn't have realy thought so, but since you are getting the downvotes, I guess you are right! I'll upvote you since you've apparently found a taboo subject.

Easy, don't make rules banning the subjects people want to talk about. Are we so concerned about people's thumbs we can ask them to just scroll past content that doesn't interest them but suits the theme of the community?

He doesn't owe any of them that keep letting him come back without paying his bill. Tabs are for bars, not cities. If they want the money, they need to be willing to make him look like a cheapskate and cancel the event. The local authorities must be supporters of his to let it keep happening. Which means they'll never make him pay the bill for any of this.