Tulsi Gabbard is a piece of complete shit. News at 11.
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I've heard this before. At least a dozen times over 10 years
any moment now
"The number is ~~40 percent~~ within weeks. Do not contradict the president.”
These ghouls can't be trusted with reality.
I doubt countries are sharing intel with the US given how Trump and his minions handle classified information.
So she probably wouldn't know whether or not Iran was building nukes.
Iran is a ally of Russia, so if she did have information on Iran building nukes Putin probably wouldn't let her say. Trump probably overruled that because he saw Israel was winning and he wanted to take credit for the win.
What a shitshow the US has become.
Sounds like Congress needs to ask her why she lied to them in the first place. Alas, they will not, because she is already playing the "Fake News" card.
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised...
Personally, I don't know why, because it's obvious Russia needs Iran for Ukraine.
But Putin isn't going to let trump attack Iran.
And it's already causing the people Putin makes support trump, start going against him.
I don't want to link an actual tucker Carlson video, so here's some people talking about his interview with Rafael Cruz:
https://youtu.be/yQEd-ECAwDU?t=1140
It tucker is breaking from trump over this, a lot more rightwing media is going to as well
How I Edged Myself For 20 Years: A U.S. Lawmakers Heroic Effort To Convince Themselves Everyday That Iran Is Two Weeks Away From A Nuke
"This memoir is beautiful, it shows a secular side to fanatical devotion you don't often see."
Desperate for her job I see.
'Could' vs 'are'.
They may not have been, but they could if they wanted to, supposedly.
Now, if they didnt before, they certainly have the motivation and arguably the justification.
I certainly wouldn't blame them for seeking out nuclear weapons now.
There is no reason to be weeks away from an atomic bomb unless you're interested in building a bomb. Tulsi was wrong about the timeline, but they were/are doing all the things a country interested in building a bomb would do.
Well, maybe if foreign countries would leave them the fuck alone to do things like control and develop their own infrastructure and natural resources; they wouldn't require nuclear weapons just to get some peace and quiet.
The last couple decades has proven that's the only deterrent that actually works.
So were they going for nukes or not? Because your first comment seemed to claim they weren't interested in nukes, but now you seem to claim they were justified in going for nukes this whole time.
(For the audience, Iran has been interested in nukes since at least the 90s, but has been prevented from getting one by lots of outside actors.)
Yes, they have been seeking nukes since at lease the 90s, probably earlier, as around the 70s America on behalf of Britain orchestrated a coup and dismantled the countries progress, all so Britain could continue fucking Iran out of its oil and the profit they need to develop.
As far as the present goes;
I don't know whether they were going for nukes specifically, or instead were developing civilian energy projects that produce/use the same if not very similar products; and that stockpile enabled them to pursue both.
Honestly I didn't care. While I generally don't think ANYONE should have nukes, the US and Russia keep proving over and over again that that is the only deterrent you can actually rely on; so I can totally understand various nations drive to ensure they actually get some peace. If Iran feels they want/need nukes to keep themselves safe; well power to em, unfortunately they are correct.
Leave them the fuck alone. Stop providing them with more and more reason to fucking despise the west and it's allies; continually proving they HAVE to fight back to continue to exist. Continuing to attack isn't turning them away from nukes, it's hardening their resolve and proving further why nukes are necessary. Why do you think they felt it necessary to build a facility 200m under a damn mountain??
Afraid they're going to use their nukes offensively? Then stop giving them reasons to. Actually show some progress towards world peace instead of of just bombing everyone that has a slightly different world view.
"Death to America" does not constitute a slightly different world view. They are perfectly reasonable in their pursuit of nukes, and we're perfectly reasonable in stopping them. When someone repeatedly says "we want to drop a nuke on people" you believe them and do what it takes to stop them.
Why are they saying 'death to America'?
Because America won't leave them alone. America started this shit, and continues to retaliate over and over for it's own fuck ups comming back to bite it.
Obviously Iran is going to hate them and say things like 'Death to America' when America just wont stop giving them reasons to.
Maybe if America can demonstrate proper restraint and just leave the country to it's own afairs, truly show themselves to NOT be an enemy of Iran, perhaps even an ally given sufficient time to heal; Iran will no longer feel the need to defend themselves against an immanent threat, whether real or perceived.
Bombing them sends the opposite message.
LIMITED EDITION SALE. YOU MUST BY THIS NOW. URGENCY!!!
"You have to kill us to make WW3 stop"
It's remarkable how fast she changed her story to the one Trump wanted to hear.
Fusion energy is always 10 years away
Iran is always 2 weeks away from nukes
Her evidence was a photo of an alleged nuclear facility with an arrow and "nukular missiles" written on with black sharpie. She also noted the MS-13 lettering stamped on top of one of the buildings.
Absolutely everything in Trumpworld takes “two weeks”
Bullshit, some things happen on day one!!! Like the ending of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
I wonder if the American population will buy the same lies sold to them 20 years ago.
I just repeated this to a table of 6 and got nothing but blank stares.
5 of them genuinely thought we found WMDs Iraq/Afghanistan
One had no idea what I was talking about and thought the war was entirely about the world trade centers.
I am surrounded by morons.
I was talking to a guy and he said "who was that politician that used to wear a bunch of makeup?".
"I'm not sure" I said
"The one with the eyeliner"
"Oh you mean J.d Vance? The vice president?"
"He's the vice president?"
Physically had to stop myself from facepalming.
Right after he started talking about Greta Thunberg. He said "people that don't know anything about politics shouldn't get involved".
I wish I could make this stuff up.
We elected Biden on mostly anti-Trump sentiment then forgot and elected Trump again 4 years later. I think 20 years is more than enough time.
We killed all their scientists who could make them and blew up all their labs...
I really hope all of the idiots supporting this shit are like 15 years old or something, because anyone who was alive when GW Bush went into Iraq has seen this shit before.
People think we're fucking untouchable... We're in for a major wakeup call, especially given that our intelligence apparatus has been gutted by Trump.
But it's almost like that's what they want so they can manufacturer consent for this bullshit war we have zero business being any part of.
plus about 400 people.
maybe the west should stop giving Iran more reasons to get nukes.
Now? Lol
they been months away from nukes for decades, any moment now. that eta can't go down due to US/Israel propaganda
She is a shell of a human being whose only driving force is ambition and a complete lack of shame.