Skavau

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[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, it's not where it should be. But I'm quite confident that such is the end-goal.

Instances will always come and go in many cases.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Maybe the instance model isn't the right one for long term federated communities.

The primary problem here is community mobility. If any community could be, with a few key presses, decoupled from an instance and essentially plopped onto another maintaining all of the posts, comments and subscribers - it wouldn't matter as much at all. Piefed has community migration, and I assume that is ultimately the end-goal. It just needs all the major instances to read and recognise such moves.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think your grievance is beyond Lemmy and more just a grievance with people in our current culture currently, at at the minimum those inclined towards social media sites. Lemmy isn't magic software that makes people behave in a particular way.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He had changed his position after I wrote that comment I believe.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 16 points 2 weeks ago

People need to be the change they want to see. I came here because I wanted to run some communities, but ultimately it was impossible on Reddit. All the names are taken, all the aging mod teams set in stone. You essentially have no meaningful opportunity to build anything new on there. In contrast, and especially with federation, the Fediverse is a completely different system. A fresh start - still after 2 years. And it has way better internal advertisement of communities than Reddit does.

And to be clear, on Reddit you can easily just shout into the wilderness at no-one. Big audience means you can get drowned out.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Apparently, reading the details on there - he might not shut it down.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No idea, but it's not an active instance so idk what happened.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think the core concept of platforms like Reddit and Lemmy can be very valuable but it's executed very badly. There should be multiple independent steps of verifying if someone should get banned and in what way. And probably integrate a good test for joining the community so that it's more likely for people to be rational from the start (that way you don't even have to look at so many potential flags).

Neither of these things are logistically viable for a community site that wants any level of consistent engagement. How do you "verify" whether or not a ban from a community was objectively justified? What "tests" should there be for whether or not someone should be able to interact in a community in the first place?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Piefed and Lemmy can mostly communicate with each other. In any case, you can't really compel Lemmy to update as fast as Piefed is.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

There's two factors to this. Lemmy has been slow on developing new features. Eventually people give up despite all the promises. This sort of competition was inevitable, and two - and this cannot be changed - there's a lot of resentment and resistance to using their software for political reasons.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don't know the details of all decisions lemmy.world instance admins have made, but it seems to me that the #1 instance will always generate the most animosity because it's far more likely than any other instance to find itself in situations where they're pressed to make decisions by their userbase.

Servers with 20% of the users and 10% of the communities, with only like a dozen 'active' communities will simply hardly ever be in that position and generate no meaningful pushback so they'll always look good by comparison. Additionally, even lemmy.world community mods can generate hostility based on decisions they made despite them having nothing to do with the instance management - and since lemmy.world dominates, you're much more likely to be posting in a lemmy.world community.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure, but I think there /might/ be a codeberg issue for this. I know I've personally inquired about it.

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