StillPaisleyCat

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[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What I would like to see is Moriarty vs Garak, ‘cutting remarks’ for the win.

Encounter at Farpoint probably isn’t the place to start.

We tend to assume our kids will get into it the same way we did, but different generations respond differently.

Our kids are fans, but they like the franchise on their own terms. We started them with the TAS DVD set, after priming them with Odd Squad. They loved it.

When they hit school age, I tried them on a curated set of TNG episodes. Didn’t really stick, but Voyager they adored. By high school they’d tried most of it but would only watch the occasional episode of DS9 or Enterprise. They watched the early seasons of Discovery with enthusiasm even though I had to fast forward through some scenes.

In high school, their interest fell off as they explored other fandoms, but they’ve come back to it on their own terms. And their favourite shows at the moment aren’t ones that I would ever have predicted.

Wow, definitely different school learning protocol here.

Our kids were fussing at me to close my tabs as I go by the time they hit middle school, and when they were younger we had a ‘clear tabs automatically on closing’ set up in their browsers.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m convinced that many people don’t appreciate DS9 until their 30s.

Cool that the 90s shows each seem to appeal to different demographics even though they were all in theory designed for mass audiences ( unlike in the current streaming era).

The problem seems to be that a lot of younger fans that get into Voyager & TNG, just cringe at DS9 or find it boring. Once they’ve had that experience they’re hard to convince to give it a fresh shot when they’re older.

The OP’s point is that there were old fans gatekeeping and downtalking ‘NuTrek’ pretty much since fan organizations took out full page newspaper ads in the US trying to stop TAS from being aired.

I was going to Star Trek cons in 1990. No matter how objectively great season 3 of TNG was, many TOS diehards were still campaigning against it.

Longstanding TOS fans could still be pretty toxic at that point to new TNG fans in person too. The guests at cons were still largely TOS cast. It was hard even to get a TNG t-shirt then.

Fast forward to 1993 and TNG cosplay was everywhere, the guests and panels were TNG and DS9 was the exciting new thing.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t forget . . .

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone else have Ukrainian farmers come to mind?

Not that I’m suggesting mixing in a political war meme here, but that’s what popped up first for me.

Looking back at that, I think Roddenberry was lampshading the expected social discomfort expected in the audience when those words were put in Pike’s mouth. Regrettably, the rest audience reportedly still wasn’t willing to accept Number One.

It’s odd though given the prominent women characters in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea which was very popular a few years before.

But you missed Alison Pill!

Our very own very nice Canadian Borg Queen.

Agree. But Boimler should still be much taller than Bean.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Boims should be lean, and Bean short.

The galaxy is NOT ready…

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