Sundial

You're a three week old account and all you've been doing is spewing hateful rhetoric to justify one of the most brutal conflicts in modern history. It's quite clear you've been raised in an environment to accept that what Israel is doing is just or even noble without a second thought because you never had someone actually challenge the concept. Take a moment and read why people are denouncing Israel's actions, figure out where they are coming from, and learn from it. I've been incredibly patient with you given how casually and cruelly you dismiss this suffering of others that are not part of your race. I'm leaving you some links I stole from another user that has a good breakdown of where people like myself are coming from. If you care, give it a look. If not, then don't. Just don't expect people to sympathize with you when you spout the kind of hateful and cruel rhetoric you've been doing.

If the Arabs had accepted partition in 1937 or 1947, there wouldn’t have been a war.

That's a funny way of saying if people didn't accept foreigners displacing them there would be no war.

Zionism is nothing more than the belief in Jewish self-determination in our ancestral homeland.

At the expense of the native population. It's an imperialist attitude, that does not take into account the suffering it inflicts. It's the same thing that happened to the Native American's when Europeans came to settle on their land. You're casually dismissing the suffering, systemic oppression, and ethnic cleansing of people to justify some political or ideological goal whose basis in the Jewish faith is questionable at best.

As I said above, Israel didn’t start the war that led to the Nakba. The Arab League of Nations did. They lost that war.

As I said before. You're neglecting what led to this war being brought on. You can't displace a native population and then be surprised when they decide to fight back and then cry victim.

The Arabs/Palestinians have had many opportunities to pursue peaceful coexistence and have chosen violence every time.

Like when Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated by Israelis for signing the Oslo accords?

Or when Israelis would establish illegal settlements like what Hilltop Youth did and attacked Palestinians on site?

Or the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre?

The oppression Israel had done on the Palestinians is well documented.

Here's another report.

That is simply because they refuse to accept the existence of a Jewish state in the Middle East.

Why should they? It's their land Israel settled on.

There was no Palestinian nationalist movement until Israel was created.

So what does that tell you about what Israel is doing? Why would this movement be needed in the first place?

Your community doesn't need to be isolated to a single instance. Your home instance, lemm.ee, can be used as one.

Yes.

The vast majority of Jews have always been willing to share the land with the Palestinian people

If that were the case then they wouldn't have forcibly removed the Palestinians from their own lands stripped them of their homes and livelihoods.

Really? That’s your counterargument, a Wiki reference to the Nakba? You really know nothing about the history, do you?

You're welcome to explain to me why I'm wrong.

Blame Hamas. There was a time before Hamas took over Gaza that Israelis and Palestinians freely moved across the border. That changed when Hamas started turning Gaza into a terrorist base.

And what led to the conditions of Hamas being formed? The Israeli government literally supported and propped up Hamas to de-legitimize the Palestinian population in the eyes of the international community.

Listen, you clearly know nothing about Israel and Zionism. You’re just blinded by hate and whatever crap you see on TikTok or you learn about from your keffiyeh-wearing college buddies.

I don't use Tiktok and my viewpoints are based on events that I see happening when I open news articles of the butchering of civilians day after day after day. I don't hate Israel because it's a Jewish state. I hate it because it's existence comes at the expense of others and they don't seem to even want to stop.

Hopefully they get the money and it actually goes to good places. Think of how many areas in our healthcare systems we can uplift with that kind of money.

Local officials told the German news agency dpa that no fire alarm system was installed in the building because experts had considered it not necessary — much to the astonishment of many observers now that the station has burned down.

Lol wut? Aren't there formal requirements for the presence of fire alarms in any kind of building?

Jews are indigenous to the land. Do you know what’s underneath the mosques in Israel? Jewish temples and artifacts dating back thousands of years.

So are the Palestinians.

And we didn’t start any of the violence. None of it. Arabs rejected the presence of a Jewish homeland in the Middle East and have been trying (and failing) to destroy it for 100 years.

Yes you did.

Once again, the Palestinian people have received billions in foreign aid. They are supported by Iran and Qatar, which are two pretty damn wealthy countries.

And were being kept in the worlds largest open air prison. They were regularly killed and attacked by the Israeli's that makes the treatment of African-Americans by cops look like a joke.

You clearly know nothing about Zionism. You are making generalizations about a movement and a people based on the behavior of a small number of extremists. Do you know what that’s called? Bigotry.

This isn't some kind of fringe group. The whole country is based on this ideal and majority of the government follows it, including the higher ups.

And I hate to disappoint you, but anti-Zionist Jews are a very, very small fringe minority. So when you say, “I don’t have a problem with Jews, I have a problem with Zionists,” you’re basically saying, “I don’t have a problem with all Jews, just most of them.”

If they're Zionists, yes I have a problem with them.

Hamas has highlighted the huge security flaws in the Israeli's defenses, shown how weak and vulnerable they are, made the IDF soldiers look like a joke, brought the plight of the Palestinians to the front of world headlines, and made the Israeli's feel vulnerable in their own homes.

Remarkable successes. Unfortunately some civilians have paid the price, but that’s what happens in war.

How does that sound?

Calling building a nation on the pile of millions of corpses of the native population and aided by the richest countries in the world a success is pretty disingenuous to put it politely. Israel's standing isn't the flex you think it is.

Israeli's are Zionist extremists. Many Jews around the world don't believe in this bullshit promised land the Zionists are using to commit unforgivable atrocities. I don't have a problem with Jews, I have a problem with Zionists.

You're going to look at the tens of thousands of corpses of slaughtered civilians in Palestine and Lebanon and call it a remarkable success? Does the sanctity of human life truly mean that little to you? You seemed to be pretty upset about reports of Israeli civilians being massacred. Is it because the Palestinians and Lebanese are not white that you care so little about them and their welfare? And you have the gall to call me mentally ill?

The article you provided literally talks about how Qatar is sending foreign aid to Gaza and Israel is allowing it since it bypassed Hamas. This just invalidates your point.

It absolutely was not thanks to hard work. Israel is a colonial settlement backed by billionaires and propped up by the American military, so they can use it as a proxy to exert their influence on the region. Pull this support away, and the country collapses.