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I'm not saying all people who struggle are lazy. Quite the opposite.

You should probably take a look at how many hours the average young person had to work a week to pay for their education or to pay rent back then,compared to now.. The numbers I can find suggest the average college aged person had to work around 18 hours a week to pay for their own education back in 1970. Today they have to work 61 hours a week.

Saying the younger generation doesn't have it harder in most western countries is objectively wrong.

I think pretty much everyone agrees with your take here. People are just saying that if kids are struggling and parents can afford it, it's weird for the parents not to help out financially.

Obviously the circumstances matter and if the kid is struggling because they're lazy or a drug addict you don't want to enable that but if they have their own kids and are working full time I would always support my kids financially if they needed that and I was able to.

Obviously parents are entitled to spend their own money but generally if kids are struggling parents want to help.

Your post makes it sound like the current young working generation has the same lived experience as people who are retired. That's just not the case at all. It's much harder for the average person to save up money and buy a house now than it was in the past.

You stated that everythibg Elon touches goes to shit.

I showed that's objectively false.

I'm no tesla or Elon fan at all but I can recognize that the man has abilities to get things done even if he is a major douchebag.

What on earth are you talking about?

Tesla is about the only company that actually makes money selling EVs.

The stock price has increased about 100% over the last year.

The all time high of the stock was literally 4 days ago..

Yeah spacex and tesla is just silly useless dust..

Like being the CEO of one of the only companies that's managed to make electric cars profitable while also being the CEO of the first company to ever reuse space rockets and boosters..

I don't like him as a person but I can recognise that he's a pretty remarkable CEO.

You can say a lot about Musk but he sure as shit gets things done.

I'm frustrated by the discourse too but I'm not sure it's for the same reasons as you.

What frustrates me is we never seem to discuss goals and why we have those goals.

Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Is it to minimize the impact and costs for humans?

What exactly are we aiming for, and why?

What is your frustration with the discourse?

But what exactly do you want to change?

Lets say you had absolute power and could make whatever decisions for the human race you'd want.

I'm curious what you'd decide.

Im not saying there aren't things we can do better, but it's also not as easy as people make it out to be.