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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Tgo_up@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm frustrated by the discourse too but I'm not sure it's for the same reasons as you.

What frustrates me is we never seem to discuss goals and why we have those goals.

Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Is it to minimize the impact and costs for humans?

What exactly are we aiming for, and why?

What is your frustration with the discourse?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

Is the goal to keep the average temperature of earth as low as possible for as long as possible?

Human sustainability requires having those goals. Protecting oligarch wealth is within oligarch corruption power, and human prosperity is a sacrifice they are willing to make. Genocide of the uppity disenfranchised as a final solution seems natural today., as the path forward.