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Lol, ok. Interesting response.

Unprocessed red meat is probably fine - my point is that Mediterranean diets contains processed red meat. Is the study counting that?

Alcohol is also consumed by Mediterraneans. Is the study covering that?

Is the volume of calories controlled for, or the ammout of red meat, or alcohol?

I'm being a bit facetious with my stupid 6000 calories example, but thats kind of my point. It is not clear what a Mediterranean diet is from the write up. So we're both making assumptions without data.

You're assuming moderate = good. I'm being flippant by pointing out that that isn't what the write up says, because it isn't clear what it is testing for.

Sure, all things in moderate is a valid point. But thats not what the study is apparently saying.

It is equally valid to say "exercise is good". Sure, but what has that to do with a Mediterranean diet - which is the missing bit of info.

Anyway, not trying to piss you off. Enjoy your drink, in moderation of course ;)

Have a good weekend.

I'm not disagreeing but Spanish people eat "jamon de York" which is processed red meat.

There are studies saying their in no benefit from any alcohol consumption.

So I'm keen to know what studies are actually measuring against as there is a lot of contradictory info out there.

As you say "moderation is key" but is it? I mean where has that been measured in these studies? If I say I eat 6000 calories but it is all Mediterranean food, is that going to bring my risk of stroke down in this paper?

Hence why I'm looking for the actual data.

Does anyone have a list of the 103 food and drink items mentioned in the study? I'm always sceptical of the "Mediterranean diet" as, in my experience, this involves a fair amount of red meat, cheese, bread and some alcohol consumption.

Is there an agrees definition of Mediterranean diet for this type of study?

"That's Doctor Simon Clark"

^ Deep cut - let's see if anyone knows it :)

Something... something... half life joke?

The first time I heard the "every other" theory I was sceptical but it has held true for a very long time now.

They might do an 8.1 and mess with some features (remember when they had to bring back the tool bar)? But another release is likely needed to fix some of the Win 11 performance and bloat issues now.

They've cut too deep, for some good reasons, but at the cost of making everything slow.

^ Note I haven't even talked about AI here.

I still shout "Save me Barry!" from time to time.

Wow, this is the first time I've seen The Uplift War in the wild. I read it as it had a similar title to something I was thinking if writing.

I didn't really enjoy it at the time but it has really taken root in my brain so maybe it was better than I thought.

Thanks for this post!

I've has this idea on and off over the years. Good on you for giving it a push.

"They're changing it from Ocean Grey to Military Grey. Something that should've been done a long time ago."

Same here. Your pain and suffering is like $40.

Crazy when you see US damages being in the millions.