bunnyfc

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[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 10 points 4 months ago

Star Trek TNG had it pretty right in terms of what's moral or what is desirable

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Until one can produce work that makes an impression with some precision one has to have experience in the medium though - and different media are different regarding to what that means.

With illustration and representative art it starts with something 'reading' correctly, i.e. whether the intended representation even gets to the recipient. And then there are more layers on top of that getting ever more meta.

Someone who can put a urinal on a pedestal and cause an uproar in whichever direction has a lot of experience - but if a picture is just a picture or a urinal is just a urinal, it's not worth looking at much, except for its engineering. Good art doesn't have to be on that level though, entertainment can also be good art (but a lot of it isn't) - there, it's about resonance.

You're right that craftsmanship alone cannot produce good art, there is something else driving the desire to hone craftsmanship, which is maybe to better be able to express what was impressed on the artist through life. Something that resonates with the artist is made with the hope it also resonates with other people, art is a social endeavour.

But I also feel that to a large extent, honing the craft also hones the intuition (and some knowledge as far as it can be distilled) for what makes things resonant with others. I make myself into the diffusion model to resonate with what I'm making while making it, you feel each curve you put to paper or canvas, you feel the tension in a pose, the impact of a composition - the resulting art is what's there when that process is abandoned.

I feel like a vegan about the currently available models - once there is something made from public domain art only I'll experiment. But right now I'm sitting in front of them like a vegan in front of sausage: For others the result is food but for them, they just see the process turning individuals into sausage.

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago

I think there already is AI art but it's not the art that everyone is talking about, it's not your run-of-the-mill fantasy illustration prompt but people exploring what can be made with tools like that.

Rather than focusing on emulating traditional illustration, they invent their own processes and that is the work.

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

there was an 'also' in that sentence - and he put it there himself without leveraging other bathroom-installations-on-pedestal works

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 123 points 5 months ago (32 children)

people forget that what makes art impressive is also the skill of the artist in the respective medium

if someone creates a perfect color gradient fill in Photoshop nobody is going to be impressed but make it with colored pencils and people may regard it as stunning

the beauty is also in the effort it took to create, not only in what the result looks like - i don't need to take time to look at stuff people didn't take time to make

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago

exactly, the web was created on open protocol specifications, not T-Systems or AT or whatever getting money and renting it to everyone

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 26 points 7 months ago (2 children)

i have a business case to become the major player in the chip industry: buy the planet's economy

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

yeah and productivity increase has decoupled from wage in 1980, while productivity rises wages stay the same - why should anyone who's not a multimillionaire find that acceptable?

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

it's ironic, since AI generated always looks polished - but the identification is mostly context-based i.e. we know nobody would pay anyone for making that illustration from scratch: because it's a throw-away

illustrations will be ubiquitous but mostly shit, only the shit will be more polished

so if an illustration is highly polished but otherwise garbage, it's AI with high probability - because the craftsmanship of the generator exceeds the artistic taste and development of the user

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 66 points 9 months ago (7 children)

it's like AAA games are only early access these days

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

they got billions to invest into new drive technologies and didn't

they have really tight contracts with all of their suppliers but didn't act in time to get the electric vehicle suppliers into similar contracts

[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Back when business was done entirely by paper, you'd have catalogues, books full of tables of things you could order with their prices. You have limited space for printing item names and those abbreviations were used there (e.g. in the 1920s).

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