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[–] bunnyfc@kbin.social 66 points 9 months ago (3 children)

it's like AAA games are only early access these days

[–] 9cpluss@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In two years they can get the award for “best ongoing game” then, just like Cyberpunk :D

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

God, what a dick sucking award. Cyberpunk may be playable now, but it did fuck all to deserve that.

Better games launched excellent and got better with age. Launching to get removed from online stores and taking years to reach playable is not the best ongoing anything.

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Thank corporate morons forcing devs to the door to meet ridiculous timelines, they don’t give a fuck if it’s ready or not.

I’m a SWE and my manager would tell me shit like “even Apple pushed out the iPhone with some bugs”, “at some point you have to wrap it and ship it”, etc. Mgmt uses this bullshit to feel better about their (or their bosses) poorly balanced priorities and decisions.

It’s all about announce early, bag as much interest and money as possible and then ship it regardless if it’s reached the definition of done or not (you better believe mgmt will throw those goalposts around as they see fit)

Pre-ordering morons hold some blame here as well as they play right into the bullshit I’m talking about

[–] idiocracy@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago

why the surprise? as long as people keep buying they will try to squize more money for less effort.

[–] malchior@aussie.zone 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Glad to see they're still improving it. When I get the Ultra Game of the Year Turbo Deluxe edition for $20 in years to come, I no doubt will enjoy it.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm gonna wait for the Ultra Game of the Year Turbo Deluxe edition Complete

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Can't forget the Ultra Game of the Year Turbo Deluxe Complete Anniversary edition, now with built-in mods.

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[–] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

i didnt play new vegas until the ultimate edition was 5 bucks at wal mart. thankfully avoiding the horrid bugs it had on launch

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

At the same time, I'll be spending my $20 to buy Skyrim again so I can run it on my toaster.

[–] FatTony@discuss.online 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When a city map is a luxury.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 9 months ago

Insane that wasnt in the list of "must ship" features

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nakey Jakey recently did a super indepth video on what is wrong with Starfield. And suffice it to say, I've removed the game from my wishlist. There's betterr games to spend my money on.

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.zip 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

If you too have an unhealthy relationship with absurdly long video essays, I'd point you in the direction of PatricianTV's Starfield analysis.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I for one absolutely do, thanks for the rec

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yeah yeah, wake me up when AI modders recreate Daggerfall in the ES6 engine.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I think people would hate it again, seeing how they hated Starfield that is also procedural.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Until I can navigate in space like I can in FREELANCER...which BTW is from 2003....

I want nothing to do with it

[–] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Friiiiick I miss freelancer so much. Best space sim to date.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago

It's free to download mate! Plus there's a huge mod that turns it into an MMO that is still being worked on

[–] Vqhm@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

It's abandon ware now

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Still not buying that garbage.

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I let my Gamepass lapse and was considering re-upping it to play Starfield. And now I am for sure not going to re-up it for Starfield. Maybe I’ll visit it in a few years, but it sounds like not a great time from Nakey Jakey’s review on it.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He provided so many examples of how it's worse than Skyrim 😅

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Just the fact that the ship combat is awful AND you don’t get to fly your ship TO other planets makes this a pass for me.

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The main feature I want is better optimization. It’s really not good still and I’ve played with the settings more than I wanted to

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Last months patch did a lot for optimization, especially on the cpu and non amd gpu builds, seeing double digit gains.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Pro tip: finish game first, THEN release it!

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I haven't bought Starfield, was waiting for sub-$25. If there are no mods, I'm lowering that to sub-$10.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Seriously what a clusterfuck of a game this has been. I'm so happy I didn't bite and buy it yet.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I should probably pick this up when it’s on sale. I bought it on release after playing CyberPunk with ray tracing and asked for a refund after playing for 20 minutes because it just looked like garbage in comparison.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Part of the reason why Bethesda games visually looks bad is because their tied to the hip with creation engine for modders to use. Part of the reason why bethesda games have soo many mods is because of how much of the games engine is open to modders to modify.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I agree. I was fine with it for Skyrim and Fallout 4 but after getting used to how gorgeous CP2077 was, the difference was jarring for a AAA title in 2023.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, cyberpunk also has mod support, and it's pretty good, I use a climbing mod, a drone mancer class mod, and before the 2.1 update it already had a metro system via mod.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When will game companies learn that they could be doing so much better if they just released their games AFTER they're finished?

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Reminder that Todd wanted to release this last year, imagine the state it was in lol

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[–] Ilflish@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the modding community likes Starfield it should really help with the emptiness of space at least. I can imagine the idea of just building an entire quest line in your selected planet would be nice for avoiding mod conflicts

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’ve heard secondhand the people working on a coop mod, after making one for Skyrim, gave up on it after deciding the game is just bad and uninteresting.

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Starfield is a fucking joke.

[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 3 points 9 months ago

I mean, the only thing that's really needed is the standard access to the creation kit. After that, I think modders can polish it up to competency, although flying to planets might be outside the abilities of the engine. I think anyone still hoping Starfield is going to be a good space game need to stop dreaming and go back to Elite/No Mans Sky/Waiting for Star Citizen, but there were some really elaborate mods for New Vegas and Skyrim back in the day. Maybe someone dedicated and talented enough could even fix that.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I got a little excited but when I read the comment… kinda don’t care given I already finished playing sf.

I’ll pick it up again when creation kit drops and someone actually adds something to it

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