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Precisely! I feel like taking away our responsibility also takes away our agency. I hate when people have their agency restricted.
There's a reason AA and NA and other peer recovery services make people take responsibility for what they've done, even if it was illness that "made" them do those things. Because having responsibility for what you've done is ultimately what frees you to have responsibility for the good that you can do. I love that for us, for all of humanity.
I didn't read it as grumpy or defensive! One thing I miss about a more civilized age... people were allowed to "argue." You could fight it out, have opinions, everyone could be right at the same time (and wrong, too) but the ability to converse seems to be lost.
We're all made better by these things! Even if it seems to get heating. Being able to talk (and disagree!) Sharpens our understanding of our topics, helps us work through and solidify our feelings and opinions, and (assuming everyone is speaking in good faith, which is a big ask on the internet) we are all made better for it!
I said good deal because it is! I called you friend cuz we are! I said have a good day because I hope you do!
We part as friends! We aren't enemies even if we may seem at odds. Take care of yourself. You're a person who deserves happiness and kindness in life.
Good deal! Have a great day!
I'm not going to get into my history here but I've spent years in and out of institutions. If you want to make the argument that this is schizoaffective disorder I won't stop you, but I assure you that even if that is the case, we are still completely responsible for what we say, and I would argue even moreso because there is zero excuse for him not to be seeking care and treatment.
When grandma has dementia, and spits and bites, she is still responsible for the consequences of her actions. We will treat her with kindness and compassion and health care, but she isn't absolved of her part in hurting someone. That is the notion I rebel against. You are still responsible for your racism. You are not given a consequence free card because of your illness. Advocating for a consequence free environment is why people can claim Kanye should be forgiven and should not be treated as an intelligent, thinking, feeling human being. I will not allow someone to say he should be. That is dehumanizing and ultimately the opposite of kindness.
Sure it does. I've done it!
Code of Conduct and ethical behavior are for everyone, not just people who follow the rules in college. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Now, professionally, I'm under an exceptional amount of scrutiny for ethical behavior and I very much should be! I work with marginalized and underrepresented people! They are easy to exploit and are very protected by the law, as well as our ethics. I've reported others for their unethical behavior (as well as conducted conversations about appropriate interaction with the people we support).
What that means is, my (metaphorical) nuts are at the band saw every minute of every day. I am absolutely fine with that. It needs to be that way. And if I have a reportable offense, if I ever refer to my actual employer by their name online, I hope to God someone reports me. Because I need a reality check, and I need one badly.
Goose, gander. Rules for thee, rules for me. The poster isn't somehow allowed to be abused because they did something in the past (which they paid for!) by someone with a superiority complex. That person isn't somehow immune to the consequences of their actions just because of something OP did in the past.
I will reiterate that I agreed upon treatment as a necessity. I also believe he deserves a punch. Not a single illness out there makes you a nazi. Not one.
I second the person who says you need to bring this public behavior to the attention of his employer.
He reported you for misconduct and the sword of damocles swings both ways.
Reminds me of when Ambien said the same thing.
And the above poster who says they need treatment should read this. We are out here. We are mentally ill. Our mental illness, even at its most untreated, doesn't make us fucking nazis so trying to be "kind" to nazis who happen to be mentally ill makes you an apologist.
Dude does need treatment. He also deserves a punch for the nazi bullshit. The one doesn't absolve the other.
I'm going to start introducing myself by offering to be someone's Fran.
If someone could just get me Sam Witwer's phone number... his voice does things to me.