jatone

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[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

news flash: he, like many other leftists are welcome to say whatever they want. doesnt mean we give a shit what he says. we often agree with him on things and support them. but 'bernie says blah' only gets your foot in the door for about 3 seconds until we look into what he said. if the reasoning behind it is wanting we reject it.

If you think bernie represents the left, hell if you think anyone represents the left you're sorely mistaken.

that being said: many leftists told you exactly what you needed to hear the entire year you needed to hear it.

  • the genocide is not okay.
  • it will impact our votes.
  • a few of us have literally been screaming it for the last 2 months in the public sphere as you're all aware.

if you think we needed to shift our position. you were very sadly mistaken. both morally and strategically. as you're now witnessing. We didn't go out and pressure our friends for harris, why? because harris didn't budge and you spent more time telling us how your grand 'lesser evil' strategy was the optimal behavior, even more than tell harris to fuck off on genocide!

guess it wasnt so optimal since you know, people tuned you out and you lost. oops. You see the thing is a lot of leftists are actually very quiet. they spend their time with their friends enjoying life and as a network we signal to each other when its important to vote. we did that in 2020 for biden and we conditioned it on him having a single term.

Biden, as we expected, went counter to his promises on a number of factors. so we didn't quietly send our signals to our group. My roommate and I for example were talking last week about the election and they were like 'looks like another 4 years of trump, and I was like 'yup, gonna suck''. we both still voted. but we didn't do what we often would do and be like 'yeah harris is worth getting the gang together and disrupting our shit to get our networks of apathetic voting friend out'

why? hand waves the last 4 years and the last 6 months in particular. genocide is not a stance you shift on.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

I think you're confused. we said 'not genocidal.' if that makes a candidate perfect dear fucking god how low the bar has fallen.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Don't worry im well aware of what I'll need to be doing this entire presidency as a result of the democrats complete and utter boondongle.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

source

Please see yourself to any election results site for Wisconsin and Michigan, look at the results differential, look at the 3rd party votes, then go back the the primaries and look at the uncommited numbers from the primary.

Source? (Most dont vote)

See yourself to any american census page, find the adult population numbers, then look at the gross voters for this election. Do some basic math and you'll end up with 25-30% of the voting population voted.

Are you an idiot?

Possibly but you most definitely are. You dont know basic well known facts about demographics of Michigan and Wisconsin, you ask for sources for literally common knowledge facts that are both widely reported and easily confirmed.

And no i didnt claim they were the exact same people you twit. I was pointing out he had relatively similar levels of total support in fucking aggregate. ~72mill.

Biden convinced a lot of swing voters due to COVID.

No, 20 million voters didnt show up this cycle because harris brought nothing to the tablento motivate them. In fact she mainly brought dismotivation via a genocide and lack of economic policies.

Token handle? Like JRR Tolkien? Did you have a stroke?

No, its the other person who responded to your absolutely trash of a post with a link to some polls.

Okay we're done here. Nothing productive will be had with furthering a conversation with someone as uninformed, and in lacking basic reasoning skills as yourself.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

😂 oh boy. Child i said eggs, milk, and roofs.

Taxes are literally the last thing thats the problem there. We're at historic lows. Lowering them for the low/middle class isnt going to get them food/housing.

You crow about common sense and then completely misfire.

Dont get me wrong I'm all for taxing billionaires hard. But thats not going to put more money in your pocket for the items above.

You'll need to do a lot more than tax billionaires harder to fix those issues.

And im here for those changes in addition to taking billionaires more.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In no way am I downplaying the religious fanatic dangers.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Idiots the lot of you, you think this is the only place people and myself have been making efforts? You morons have been getting warned the entire fucking year via student protests, media articles, poll numbers.

But apparently supporting a fucking genocide and shouting 'lesser evil' was more important to you than winning the 25 electoral points. No fucking wonder harris lost. Couldnt even say 'genocide is bad mkay, we'll follow our fucking laws'

Never mind her absolutely non-existent labor/working class economic policies.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Imagine thinking someone needs to cave on not being genocidal. Jesus fucking christ.

  • students were arrested under their watch, a key demographic for them in a tight race. Students are often motivated canvassers. Their response to the outcry? There must be order. Get bent biden/harris.
  • they lost 25 electoral points in two fucking swing states directly related to this. In literal numbers codified in the outcome.
  • they completely fucking ignored the economic issues caused by corporate greed. Fun fact kellogs is charging over 100% more for fucking corn flakes than the store brand. CORN FLAKES.

Most Americans support the guy who wants to impose Muslim travel bans.

Sigh. You didnt do well in math did you? Tell me where did the 20 million votes for biden last time go? Trumps numbers are unchanged. Oh right, they didnt show up. 🤔

Never mind the fucking fact most adults dont vote. So no most Americans dont support trump. They just dont think either party is worth their emotional energy. Good job democrats! 🤔

And token handle the rest of your nonsense with the polling numbers.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

Your words not mine. You failed to convince 20 million people with that argument, harris failed to convince 20 million people to show up using it after blowing a billion dollars.

Harris lost 25 electoral points in two states out of the fucking gate using it.

Harris lost more for completing fucking ignoring the problems working Americans are feeling at home. A minor tax break after food has shot up 20-30% in four years? Fuck off.

She fucking managed to lose every swing state using it.

At what point do you fucking realize how absolutely fucking stupid of a play that reasoning is?

I dont need to argue this point anymore. You want answers look internally. Not to me, Ive spent the last year trying to get you deeebs to course correct. You failed to do so and as result you've earned trump.

Insanity:

  • you
  • doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Wrong person :)

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No I didnt we lost. We lost our humanity, we've lost our shared communities. The fact i had to spend the last year arguing with people that genocide is not fucking okay is evidence of that.

In no fucking way do I consider this outcome a win. There was no winning this election unfortunately and thats precisely the fucking problem. But alas democrats decided committing genocide, arresting their enthusiastic base for protesting, fucking over the working class, and shitting on the people warning them about these issues come voting are winning strategies.

😮‍💨🤷

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

😮‍💨 alright another lost soul to educate.

hamas has agreed to numerous cease fires and full returns of the hostages. Israel is the problem.

You're absolutely clueless about whats going on there and the actions by the biden admin.

You're clueless about what the Israeli have been doing for decades to these people.

Maybe next time learn some shit before opening your mouth eh? And if you happened to know all this and still decided to post your nonsense. Well then you're just a shit human being and an asshole not worth anyones time or effort. Good day.

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