kapparino-feederino

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[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

its crazy how they got so hyped up.

like u can get a Seiko Speedtimer the solar quarts one for the same price as some grey market moonswatch and people stills buy a plastic toy watch over it.

i just don't get the hype for it. bad value for MSRP awful value for the grey market price.

blancpain one is awful value but atleast its not hyped.

im all for accesibility but i really don't think these watches are it

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The moonswatch in itself is already a really bad value watch tbh

The blancpain is more painful pricing

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Since its not a diver category.

I say:

Seiko Alpinist, if possible get the sarb017

Speedmaster Reduced is also pretty cool IMO

Hamilton Khaki Murph is nice looking too

I think at this price u can get the basic grand seiko with spring drive

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Right now for around 1000-1500 range that i really want to get are:

  1. Grand Seiko 6145-8050 from 1972 in Mint Condition.
  2. Speedmaster Reduced, i think i seen one used at around 1700
  3. Longines Legend Diver

all of them are used ofc, i don't really like to buy things new

 

Okay, so i was reading a thread that has seiko new release. Then i got into a comment that says

"Anywhere from -10s to +15s a day. ... I was ok with that accuracy when their divers were $400, not $1k+."

So i really wonder if this statement is actually true, that 1k watches have better accuracy than +15/-10 Sec. Does watches in this price range really state their accuracy and have good accuracy that makes Seiko watches look over priced.

This Thread doesn't care about YOUR certain model current accuracy, im taking what the manufacturer said (or if they don't say anything) it has. Because same thing can be said with Seiko's product, seen some of their Low end budget movement have really good accuracy. So your Watch accuracy is irrelevant here.

So Lets go!

Let's start with this sub favorite Tissot PRX doesn't even state the expected accuracy of the watch. Since its not chronometer certified according to the User Manual:

"Most watches which are not certified chronometers have an average accuracy tolerance of around -10/+30 seconds per day"

this thing cost around 500-700 bucks. Tissot doesn't state the accuracy of the watch but they do imply on their manual that its -10/+30 sec per day because it doesn't have any chronometer certification.

Another favorite watch around here, Hamilton Khaki. Hamilton also didn't make any claim for the watch. That watch cost u 1k usd. According to their FAQ page: "Most watches that do not have a chronometer certificate have an average course deviation of -10/+15 seconds per day."

Now lets go to Christopher Ward The Twelve. Another 1K+ watch, using a selita movement. Accuracy Stated in the Website Page +/- 20 Seconds.

Then we go to Doxa, another favorite brand in here. the Sub 200 professional. Another almost 1k watch. No stated accuracy.

Lets go a bit Highend the Longines Conquest. Almost 2K watch, using L888 Movement (this is not COSC). No actual stated Accuracy too.

So I guess the Seiko stated accuracy is about par for the course for most major brand. Its not really worse than other brand that sells their watch at higher point and didn't disclose their accuracy number (which IMO is worse).

So my question would be, why does it always comes up on seiko products the criticism on their movement accuracy but never on other brands?

Maybe seiko should stop posting their accuracy number all together, so they would have a better brand perception, since lots of other brands did that and escape criticism.

Or is it because of the Swiss bias? Since the movement is Swiss there for its fine because surely swiss movement is higher in quality.

Either way this is what I find, feel free to correct and add to the discussion.

Personal Rant: if accuracy is so important why don't u just buy a 50 bucks quartz and be done with it instead of going into mechanical watch.

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

i never find anyone who buys speedmaster because:

"they wanna be astronauts"

they buy it because its the moonwatch, the watch that went to the moon, the history of it.

and 2nd reason is because they like the looks.

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I have a 1969 King Seiko 4502 - 7000

Why do i have it? Well because its part of the watch history i guess when seiko beats the swiss so hard they close the chronometer competition.

Also its the last movement that are handmade iirc.

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Need more Seiko for sure :)

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

why not, not like there is this holy rule against it

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

this watch cost more to repair than it is to buy new, but man the movement looks amazing

[–] kapparino-feederino@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

i rather no cyclops regardless

 

As in the title said, what are the watch u regret selling the most? it could be something u bought back again or something thats either harder to get now or the price is too dumb for you to buy it again.

for me its the Seiko Presage Fuyugeshiki Limited edition. sold it at a decent profit and use it to fund my other hobbies only to regret it a year later and can't get one now because the price is too ridiculously expensive for what it is.

Man thing thing is a beauty, for a 50+ years old watch to be in such good condition. outside and inside too.

i don't really care about resale value, but im planning to find a person who can polish this (locally in indonesia) without ruining the look of the case and maybe some dial restoration too so it can look like brand new.

well that was the plan after i replace it's mainspring.

but this marks my 2nd watch in my collection. the next target its going to be a Tudor Blackbay 58. so gonna need to save up quite abit for that one.

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