nednobbins

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[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I have zero sympathy.

Exactly.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

I just read that law and it's far from clear that it requires any aid to Israel at all.

Section 1 just defines the title.
Section 2 provides a statement of findings.
Section 3 covers US policy towards Israel. This is the closest I could find to something requiring assistance. Policy statements don't bind the president. At best they serve as guidelines for future legislation.
Section 4 talks about actively defending Israel but brackets the whole thing in "should". That has a specific legal definition that includes, "but it's not required."
Section 5 simply extends some deadlines that were going to expire.
Section 6 mandates some reports.
Section 7 defines terms.

The language in the Leahy Act is considerably stronger and more explicit. "No assistance shall be furnished under this chapter..."

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Fun fact, there’s a 2008

What law is that? I keep hearing about it but I can't find that law.

I did find several that prohibit the US from providing aid to countries that commit human rights violations but nothing that requires the US to give anyone any military hardware.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

In other news, exponents make things big.

Any time you have an X>1 and a big n, X^n gets huge.

X=26 (if we ignore punctuation, spaces, and capitalization).
N=130,000

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Not rude at all. The original question is why certain people behave in a certain way.

The first point addresses the direct reason why some voters would refuse to vote for Harris due to her stance on Israel. When people believe they are being harmed they tend to focus all their attention on the immediate harm. It's not a logical choice but people don't act logically in these circumstances.

As an example of this, I'd offer our response to 9/11. The entire nation came together to pass the PATRIOT act and start a war in Afghanistan. There's no logic in passing a bill that was so long that no one in congress could have read it before voting on it. It's hard to argue for the logic of invading Afghanistan. There wasn't really an objective (besides "get OBL", who we later ended up assassinating in an other country) and in retrospect it's certainly clear that it caused far more harm than good. But we were in an emotional state. The people watching their relatives getting bombed in Gaza are in a similarly emotional state.

The second point addresses why Democrats attempts to convince them are failing so spectacularly. Getting someone to vote for your preferred candidate is an exercise in persuasion. Much has been written about the art of persuasion and "insult your audience," isn't generally a recommended technique. One counterexample is "pickup artists". They theorize that by insulting or "negging" women they can motivate the woman to counter the insult by seeking the mans approval. While this does work on some small percentage of women, the vast majority are more motivated to find their mace.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

2 reasons jump to mind.

  1. When I listen to people who personally identify with the people of Gaza, it goes way beyond logic. They have a completely emotional reaction. Their choices are almost completely driven by the question of, "Who is doing what, right now?" Questions of, "Who will do what 6 months from now?" take a distant back seat.

  2. Every time the topic comes up, Democrats dogpile on them and call them morons. People will often respond with something like, "Yeah but that's OK because they ARE morons." I won't argue if that's true or not but it's pretty obvious that line of reasoning won't win a lot of converts.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

It happens regularly.

I'd also add that I find everyday stories from real people to be vastly more engaging that the completely unbelievable stories I see on TV.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you consider yourself these people's friend?
If you're completely disinterested in their milestones, that sounds more like an acquaintance.

But to your question, yes. I actually care about these things for acquaintances and random people too. There are limits to how much I care but it's not zero.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I just read that list. As near as I can tell they put a lot of words in that don't actually promise anything helpful. Maybe I'm wrong.

Let's make it as easy as possible to show this plan in a good light. Instead of finding one bad bullet point in that list and tearing it up, let's see if we can find one good one.

Out of that entire list, which bullet point do you think has the best chance to actually "counter Islamophobia and Anti-Arab Hate?"

edit: grammar

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'm also offended by Israeli war crimes but I don't think that's an accurate assessment.

As far as I can tell, the Israeli military is very good at violence. They're extremely well equipped, they have superb training, and their military personnel tend to be dedicated to their cause.

The main problem isn't their ability to kill and destroy, it's their indiscriminate use of that ability.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

It's a valid question and I'm sure the Harris campaign has spent considerable resources trying to get a good estimate of that number.

It's pretty insane that the Democratic party officials have to say, "We'd love to stop funding a genocide but our members won't vote for us if we do that."

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