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No one's talking about rates. The article itself, all the articles linked in these comments are talking about counts. Numbers of incidents. I'm not justifying anything because I'm not injecting my opinion here. I'm only pointing out that without context, counts don't give you enough information to draw a conclusion, that's just math. You can't even derive a rate without that context!

The NHSTA hasn't issued rules for these things either.

the U.S. gov has issued general guidelines for the technology/industry here:

https://www.transportation.gov/av/4

They have an article on it discussing levels of automation here:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle-safety/automated-vehicles-safety

By all definitions layed out in that article:

BlueCruise, Super Cruise, Mercedes' thing is a lvl3 system ( you must be alert to reengage when the conditions for their operation no longer apply )

Tesla's FSD is a lvl 3 system (the system will warn you when you must reengage for any reason)

Waymo and Cruise are a lvl 4 system (geolocked)

Lvl 5 systems don't exist.

What we don't have is any kind of federal laws:

https://www.ncsl.org/transportation/autonomous-vehicles

Separated into two sections – voluntary guidance and technical assistance to states – the new guidance focuses on SAE international levels of automation 3-5, clarifies that entities do not need to wait to test or deploy their ADS, revises design elements from the safety self-assessment, aligns federal guidance with the latest developments and terminology, and clarifies the role of federal and state governments.

The guidance reinforces the voluntary nature of the guidelines and does not come with a compliance requirement or enforcement mechanism.

(emphasis mine)

The U.S. has operated on a "states are laboratories for laws" principal since its founding. The current situation is in line with that principle.

These are not my opinions, these are all facts.

I'm saying larger sample size == larger numbers.

Tesla announced 300 million miles on FSD v12 in just the last month.

https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2001/tesla-on-fsd-close-to-license-deal-with-major-automaker-announces-miles-driven-on-fsd-v12

Geographically, that's all over the U.S, not just in hyper specific metro areas or stretches of road.

The sample size is orders of magnitude bigger than everyone else, by almost every metric.

If you include the most basic autopilot, Tesla surpassed 1 billion miles in 2018.

These are not opinions, just facts. Take them into account when you decide to interpret the opinion of others.

No one else has the same capability in as wide a geographic range. Waymo, Cruise, Blue Cruise, Mercedes, etc are all geolocked to certain areas or certain stretches of road.

Talk of the Tik Tok ban predates the attack that triggered the current iteration of violence in Israel/Gaza.

The only way this makes sense is as a punitive measure against foreign landlords, where the tenant (as the tax payer) gets some measure of ownership over the property, which doesn't seem to be the case.

Yeah, most infotainment systems hide their memory leaks behind the fact that when you turn the car off, you reset the computer. Not so in an always on EV.

You can turn it on anywhere in the U.S. I'm not sure if it's geolocked elsewhere. You might be confusing it with GM, Ford, Mercedes, and other systems which only work on certain stretches of certain roads.

For the sake of the secret service people, I hope he gets the very first president solitary wing named after him

Honestly that's the best possible name for it.

This history of the opinion pieces is an interesting one. I just wanted to point those two facts out to anyone who may have missed that in the headline.

More info if you're interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/03/insider/opinion-op-ed-explainer.html

The Opinion section operates editorially independently from the rest of the newspaper. It is the section’s unique mission both to be the voice of The Times, and to challenge it. The Op-Ed pages were born, in part, because of the closing of New York’s top conservative newspaper, The New York Herald Tribune. They were created to be opposite the editorial pages — and not just physically.

“The purpose of the Op. Ed. page is neither to reinforce nor to counterbalance The Times’s own editorial position,” the introduction to the newly created opinion pages stated in 1970. “The objective is rather to afford greater opportunity for exploration of issues and presentation of new insights and new ideas by writers and thinkers who have no institutional connection with The Times and whose views will very frequently be completely divergent from our own.”

Just to highlight that last bit: The opinions are frequently chosen to be completely divergent from those held by the NYT staff.