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The honking thing specifically is another skewed fact. The neighbors want the Waymos, they just had a hard time getting ahold of the right folks at Waymo. That includes Sophia Tung, the neighbor who set up the honking video stream that Jason used.

As a local in the area, I can say for certain that the majority of SF wants the cars there. There's more resistance further down the peninsula, but it's intermixed with anti-taxi messaging. It's hard to tell if it's about the cars or about "those kind of people" having access to their city.

San Francisco neighbors say repeated Waymo honking is keeping them up at night

Christopher Cherry who lives in the building next door said he was "really excited" to have Waymo in the neighborhood, thinking it would bring more security and quiet to the area.

The residents who spoke with NBC Bay Area said they are not opposed to having the Waymo cars nearby. But they say they want to see a more neighborly response from the new autonomous vehicle company on the block.

"We love having them there, we just would like for them to stop honking their horn at four in the morning repeatedly," Cherry said.

San Francisco neighbors say Waymo honking continues, global audience follows along live

The incidents were captured on resident Sophia Tung's YouTube live stream

Tung and many of her neighbors said that they are Waymo customers and actually like the Waymo technology. But what they don't like is the repeated, overnight noise.

Well, formerly operating companies. The Uber and Cruise examples stopped both of them dead. Uber left the business entirely and Cruise had its license to operate revoked.

That's just omitting info. There's also straight up wrong stuff, like residents not wanting it. As crazy as it sounds, at least with SF, the residents' reps wrote the regulation law and haven't had a measure to reject self-driving cars (at least K passed). The majority want to see these cars. Also, Facebook dumped their move fast motto a decade ago because of how bad it was (self-harm problems).

It's unfortunate too. I like Jason's rants, but it's too distracting when he gets a quick google level of facts wrong.

Interesting! Thanks for the explanation. :)

Has something changed recently? When I was in Tokyo, admittedly more than a decade ago now, the bike lanes were tiny slivers of paint. And I do mean a sliver; they were not much wider than a foot. It would be unsafe to use them in traffic.

Mozilla invented Rust to rewrite the rendering engine. Read the history of Servo and bring a tissue to cry into.

Parking regulations don't apply to public projects. Strong Towns well documents the problem with parking regulations as they are written and applied in practice. I highly recommend checking it out.

Underground spots are roughly 20 to 50 thousand dollars each. Surface lots are only a few thousand per spot.

Do you want to invest in my coffee shop idea? I need a few million dollars to build the required parking.

Bike lanes on roads are practically free. For example, when repainting the road after resurfacing maintenance. It doesn't take more paint to mark out a bike lane than it does for car parking.

Bike infrastructure at its core is a political issue. If you follow cyclist money, you'll soon find it spent on bicycle advocacy groups. It's the best bang-for-buck and addresses all the other barriers, like shop owners complaining about the free public parking they're not paying for.

Critical Mass was so successful in San Francisco that it almost doesn't exist anymore. These days discussions of bike lanes is more about what kind of lane rather than if bikes should even be allowed on the road.

https://www.kqed.org/news/11941576/the-night-that-changed-san-francisco-cycling-forever

The article says part of the plan is to use fine money as a way to inject cash into the bus system. That seems like a good idea, but I'd like a local's opinion! Is the bus system not working due to lack of routes? Long intervals? Something else?

I'm not car-free, but I do all my grocery shopping without a car. In fact, I'm at my local grocer as I type at 1.7 miles away taking 250 feet elevation gain and 210 feet loss. I understand your pain!

Here's why I still think a bike fits your situation. Namely an inexpensive folding bike with a front basket and rack.

Hills are conquered in the same way as a cart: walking uphill. Also known as "hike a bike." Folding bikes are usually also allowed on busses, so you could take a bus one way. You could time your departure to a bus schedule and shop knowing you don't have to rush or spend a long time at the store.

Folders can be brought inside and consume about the same space as a folding trailer.

My overall point is a folding bike is a trailer that you can ride downhill in. Electric would be a nice upgrade, but it's not necessary.

When cars are the only way to get to a bar or a friend's place, then you're going to get drunk drivers. Car dependency has a big hand in causing these deaths.