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I use Open Street Map out if being ...a rather old dude who contributed quite a lot to it at it's beginning. Didn't try the included one. I honestly don't think you can beat google maps, and so I don't care if I struggle a bit (or a lot) more.

I'll check comaps tho. It's not much traffic that bothers me, more roadworks and other perturbations.

Fairphone is in the Netherlands, Murena in France but that doesn't say where their support service is subcontracted. Tho I'd rather think it's due to them being relatively small outfits.

👊 With you here now, F6 and /e/OS 👊

Yeah, I had this initial knee-jerk reaction but since you don't need as much foss apps to cover basic stuff full of shit (hello Oppo File Manager with ads displaying inside your file list), it's probably less a worry and more about functionality.

I don't need a calendar, I use proton. For notes taking I had an other with tons of notes on it, so I don't want to use the og one. But I also had a gallery, a file manager, a PDF reader which I don't need anymore. Should I persist with Open Street Maps? I haven't tried the included one. Knee-jerk I said. I need to check them. Maybe the music app is better than vlc? The browser could be set to permanent incognito mode & I don't need Firefox Focus.

That said, I'll never get rid of ~~Accu~~BreezyWeather or the KISS Launcher.

Tell us how it goes for you!

First day: this thing is bulky and heavy. e/OS has stupid unremoveable apps like "tasks", "notes" and other calendar etc that you can't get a list of and much less uninstall, feels like ...android.

I just ordered a fairphone last Saturday, with /e/OS.

How's life so far? How's the available mobile network working for you?

Apples and oranges : Ubuntu is a commercial endeavour with a huge entreprise desktop and server base (not unlike redhat), while Fedora is the testing grounds, community-side of said redhat, so inherently not made for IRL work.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people use Fedora for work (I do, on my Asahi macbook), but if you are a business you probably won't, as you'll look for something with available customer support.

All other merits and demerits enunciated here are valid, but the true difference is in their target audience.

The interconnection of both, where state surveillance finds in private data collection the info they aren't legally allowed to obtain, or where state actors sub-contracts the private sector to provide data.

I have a cheat code: I work for others. My work helps performances happen, which in turn do bring entertainment and/or depth to audiences. Also I love my office

VLC for local, Murglar for streaming because it allows me to save music locally.

Dad here. I'd fall flat on my ass if some boyfriend came to me asking permission - pretty sure it won't happen given the way we rose our daughters.

Fun unrelated to marriage fact: I once had my SO check the front window of a jewelry shop to "pick her favourite" - the stated game was that if we both silently picked the same I'd buy it for her. Some 30+ years later she still wears it on her ring finger. No stone, a ladder of white gold encasing gold stars.

Many imaginative solutions around :)

2 completely different propositions :

• gOS is all about security - do you live in a Surveillance State? (The answer today is most probably yes)
• e/OS is all about🖕google - do you think google is a nefarious entity part of today's world problems? (I think absolutely yes)

So your choice isn't one because it's apples and oranges. I can't go for gOS because they don't care about google, and it means I'd be waving around a pixel, I'd be a mobile billboard for google - and also if "someone" wants to get into my phone, they will anyway. A fairphone is another statement entirely, and with an alternate OS from a small French business it's the most political choice I can make. Also, fuck google.

[edit] e/OS is built on LineageOS which runs on many many phones.