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How do you use your Beelink? More specifically what OS (and maybe core/most used apps) do you have installed? How do you interact with it (eg - wireless keyboard/mouse, USB IR receiver, etc.)?

Any downside to this approach compared to using the Smart TV/Android TV/Apple TV features?

I think that @theomegabit@infosec.exchange is asking for Proton to become an OAuth/OIDC provider. This would allow you to sign into any service, app, platform, etc. that supports it using your Proton account. Some common providers that are widely supported are Google, Apple, Github, Facebook, and Microsoft.

It is generally considered more secure than using "regular credentials" like username/email and password when using several services. There are a few downsides to this though. One of those downsides is that your OAuth/OIDC provider will have record of all your accounts used through OAuth/OIDC. For example, @theomegabit@infosec.exchange would like to avoid Google knowing about the various services used.

I'm still not sure what point you are trying to make. Your initial claim was:

Although Mozilla encrypts the synced data, the necessary account data is shared and used by Google to track those.

@utopiah@lemmy.ml asked:

Are you saying Firefox shares data to Alphabet beyond Google as the default search engine? If so and if it applies to Sync (as if the question from OP here) can you please share sources for that?

You stated:

Mozilla does, sharing your account data

You also provided evidence that Mozilla uses Google Analytics trackers on the Firefox's product information website. I mentioned that it's not sufficient evidence of your claim as the trackers are independent of Firefox the browser and Sync. Additionally, the use of trackers for websites is clearly identified on Mozilla's Privacy Policies and there is not much else mentioned on the Privacy Policies outside of those trackers and Google's geolocation services in Firefox.

You've also mentioned Google's contract with Mozilla, which is controversial for many people, but isn't evidence of Mozilla providing user data to Google even in conjunction with the previously mentioned trackers. You then discussed various other browsers, but I'm not sure how that is relevant to your initial claim.

While it seems we can both agree that Mozilla and it's products are far from perfect, it is looking like your initial claim was baseless as you have yet to provide any evidence of your initial claim. Do you have any evidence through things like code reviews or packet inspections of Firefox or Sync that hints Mozilla is sharing additional information to Google? At this point, I would even accept a user(s) providing evidence of some weird behavior like the recent issue where google.com wouldn't load in Firefox on Android if someone could find a way to connect the weird behavior to Mozilla sharing data with Google.

I don't understand what point you are trying to make. Mozilla has several privacy policies that cover its various products and services which all seem to follow Mozilla's Privacy Principles and Mozilla's overarching Privacy Policy. Mozilla also has documentation regarding data collection.

The analytics trackers that you mentioned would fall under Mozilla's Websites Privacy Policy, which does state that it uses Google Analytics and can be easily verified a number of ways such as the services you previously listed.

However, Firefox sync uses https://accounts.firefox.com/ which has its own Privacy Policy. There is some confusion around "Firefox Accounts" as it was rebranded to "Mozilla Accounts", which again has its own Privacy Policy. There is no indication that data covered by those policies are shared with Google. If Google Analytics trackers on Mozilla's website are still a concern for these services, you can verify that the Firefox Accounts and Mozilla Accounts URLs do not contain any Google Analytics trackers.

Firefox has a Privacy Policy as well. Firefox's Privacy Policy has sections for both Mozilla Accounts and Sync. Neither of which indicate that data is shared with Google. Additionally, the data stored via the Sync service is encrypted. However, there is some telemetry data that Mozilla collects regarding Sync and more information about it can be found on Mozilla's documentation about telemetry for Sync.

The only thing that I could find about Firefox, Sync, or Firefox Accounts/Mozilla Accounts sharing data with Google was for location services within Firefox. While it would be nice for Firefox not to use Google's geolocation services, it is a reasonable concession and can be disabled.

Mozilla is most definitely not a perfect company, even when it comes to privacy. Even Firefox has been caught with some privacy issues relatively recently with the unique installation ID.

Again, I'm not saying that Mozilla is doing nothing wrong. I am saying that your "evidence" that Mozilla is sharing Firefox, Sync, or Firefox Accounts/Mozilla Accounts data with Google because of Google Analytics trackers on some of Mozilla's websites is coincidental at best. Without additional evidence, it is misleading or flat out wrong.

I'm not disputing the results, but this appears to be checking calls made by Firefox's website (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/) and not Firefox, the web browser application. Just because an application's website uses Google Analytics does not mean that the application shares user data with Google.

https://changedetection.io/

Change Detection can be used for several use cases. One of them is monitoring price changes.

tl;dr: A notable marketshare of multiple browser components and browsers must exist in order to properly ensure/maintain truly open web standards.

It is important that Firefox and its components like Gecko and Spidermonkey to exist as well as maintain a notable marketshare. Likewise, it is important for WebKit and its components to exist and maintain a notable marketshare. The same is true for any other browser/rendering/JavaScript engines.

While it is great that we have so many non-Google Chrome alternatives like Chromium, Edge, Vivaldi, etc., they all use the same or very similar engines. This means that they all display and interact with websites nearly identically.

When Google decides certain implementation/interpretation of web standards, formats, behavior, etc. should be included in Google Chrome (and consequently all Chromium based browsers), then the majority marketshare of web browsers will behave that way. If the Chrome/Chromium based browsers reaches a nearly unanimous browser marketshare, then Google can either ignore any/all open web standards, force their will in deciding/implementing new open web standards, or even become the defacto open web standard.

When any one entity has that much control over the open web standards, then the web standards are no longer truly "open" and in this case becomes "Google's web standards". In some (or maybe even many) cases, this may be fine. However, we saw with Internet Explorer in the past this is not something that the market should allow. We are seeing evidence that we shouldn't allow Google to have this much influence with things like the adoption of JPEG XL or implementation of FLoC.

With three or more browser engines, rendering engines, and browsers with notable marketshares, web developers are forced to develop in adherence to the accepted open web standards. With enough marketshare spread across those engines/browsers, the various engines/browsers are incentivized to maintain compatibility with open web standards. As long as the open web standards are designed and maintained without overt influence by a single or few entities and the open standards are actively used, then the best interest of the collective of all internet users is best served.

Otherwise, the best interest of a few entities (in this case Google) is best served.

A free, libre, opensource, and privacy focused alternative to Zoom is Jitsi, which can be used without an account.

If you want even more privacy, you could host your own video conferencing service. Some options are below.

• Jitsi
• Jami
• BigBlueButton

I'm not privy to what is going on, who the users from the screenshot are, or what this is all in reference to, but saying they "actively setup RSS feeds" for this is a bit disingenuous. The ability to consume Reddit users' RSS feeds has existed for longer than GrapheneOS has been around. Anyone posting on Reddit (especially on public subs) or any other public site should have the expectation that their posts/comments can be monitored/tracked/followed, searched, recorded/copied, etc. This should just be viewed as a reminder of that.