theneverfox

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, more like I think he predates the surveillance state, and by virtue of growing up in Kansas he's an American and no one would consider thinking otherwise (all of this legal/illegal nonsense is pretty new historically)

I'm not trying to split hairs, but I like to spread reminders that people live where they live, and the idea you can live in a county illegally is inhuman

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah, well... Got room for 60 million immigrants?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 40 points 1 day ago

Your saying it wrong

"Your honor, masked thugs were attempting to kidnap the very scared man. They also refused to identify themselves or explain the situation"

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I mean... I don't think the paperwork is going to account for spaceships. So... Put the spaceship in the barn, say you found him out in the field, and there's no fraud

Lies of omission don't count when you're dealing with the state

Doesn't mean the Kent's didn't lie, just that they might not have done anything fraudulently

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

Well, not anymore. Now we don't have coordinated rescues... Even in Texas, the Fed took 3 days to provide support, because it all has to be signed by Christi Nome and apparently she was busy

So... Maybe do show up? Who knows at this point. But ideally, with an RV or camping equipment, because where are the victims and professionals going to stay

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean... They kind of didn't though

In major cities, sure. Even smaller ones will have Indian places. But they're proportional to the amount of Indians in an area

Because there's a big difference... Everyone can go to a Chinese restaurant and confidently order. Everyone knows what sushi is, even if some people don't eat it. Thai foods are less known, but the menus are very Americanized, so you go once and you get the idea

I know the good Indian restaurant back home, but I only know the dishes by color. Lots of naan and wet dishes... They were good, but I couldn't tell you what they were. And if the sign says Indian food, I don't know what they serve. So I've only been to the one place

Vindaloo and curry? That is everywhere, but I've never had an Indian version of it. The British spread vindaloo and curry spread itself

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

At this point, he's probably over qualified

But he'd get my vote

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago (6 children)

How can a baby give false pretense though?

If you find a baby in a field (hiding the spaceship, let's just leave that quiet), what happens next?

A baby cannot bear false witness... It's a baby. The parents can, but that doesn't necessarily affect the baby's citizenship status

Trade it out for the assumed situation...a Kansas teen gave birth to the kid and left him in a field. This is an American with no documentation... But they're assumed to be legit by their age. And so they get documentation

And yeah, Superman doesn't match that situation exactly, but it looks the same from the outside. The state won't know the difference

Ultimately, there are no illegal people. All these roles are made up.... People live where they live. The system is the problem, not the people

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Is it fraud though? Not necessarily... You could just say "I found this baby, and now it's mine", and if it's young enough it'll get birthright citizenship

But this is mostly splitting hairs... But more fundamentally, I don't believe people can be illegal for existing, so I'm never going to say someone is.

But would Superman get deported if they knew his history? MAGA people are saying they'd deport Jesus if he didn't come in "the right way", you tell me

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (10 children)

IDK, I'm not that into comics, especially DC

I think they just declared him their son (which is a thing you can do if they're still X months old) and got him an SSN and birth certificate. If you have an at home birth, you have quite a while to legitimize it

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago (14 children)

There's some room for interpretation

He entered illegally, but also didn't have a choice... But he's also stateless, which is very bad and very messy

But then he was adopted by citizens, which grants citizenship... Assuming you go through the process. Which varies by iteration of Superman, but generally I think they just said he was their biological child

He's also an abandoned baby, which means he could get birthright citizenship by virtue of being found on American soil... We just kind of assume random abandoned babies were born here, because what other option is there? Making people stateless is an international human rights violation

But ultimately, he's not human. He doesn't get human rights, just like how non-human persons don't have rights (even if they have certain protections). It doesn't matter if an orangutan puts on a tie and gets a 9-5 job, even if they could speak and showed the ability to integrate into normal society... At this time, non-human persons are not legally recognized by the US

So... His situation is significantly more tenuous than some of the people getting deported right now. But he probably would have clean paperwork, because the state doesn't know the details of his origin and his adoptive father was smart enough to hide it from the state

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 14 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Plus... Like, definitionally, Superman was not born on US soil or to American parents. He doesn't have birthright citizenship

He's a literal alien with a fake identity, at the very least he's an immigrant, in every canon

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