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[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I will agitate for change and liberty that doesn't concentrate power. Including power that comes from money.

But I will do so in the legacy of Dr King. Without violence. And through solidarity.

So, I think we both do agree that concentrations of power are the enemy. I think one of us just realized that money is a concentration of power, and the other one is possibly supporting a billionaire con man.

The term woke as a pejorative is a form of manipulation by the way. It's a way in an abuser keeps people trapped in an abusive relationship. Making blindly following an autocrat a virtue.

In case you didn't know.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

You also have to connect to people on an emotional level. The argument style that appeals to voters isn't the one that is going to convince a judge that you're right.

She appealed to reason in other words. And she needed to hit people on more levels than that.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not saying she didn't talk about policy I'm saying she didn't connect with voters about policy.

Trump didn't need to connect about policy because he could connect with them emotionally. Kamala just tried to appeal to reason but when people are frustrated with the government that doesn't work so well.

And it doesn't work well on busy low information voters either.

In other words she lacked charisma. I like her policies I don't think she would have been a bad president and I voted for her.

But she talks like a prosecutor. And she uses that type of argument style. And it just doesn't connect as easily as appeals to emotion.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think a lot of people have explained to you how this could be traumatizing.

And trauma needs to be addressed and people need to be given time to recover in order to function well.

This is how a nervous system works. Other animals do this too. After a stressful event they need time to decompress.

If you would like to learn more about trauma I am sure there is tons of information on the internet for you to get a better understanding of how trauma interacts with the body and the nervous system.

We call this shock. And no animal really functions well in a state of shock. If you think that you function well in a state of shock it's likely that your traumatized and already disassociating.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just told you I practice non-violence, why do you keep thinking I plan to go to war lol

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Trump appealed to emotion. Harris tried appealed to reason.

Considering most voters don't pay enough attention to politics to have well informed opinions, it's easy to see why her messaging failed.

I think if we would have had a primary, had Biden stepped down a long time ago, we may have gotten a more charismatic nominee.

So I absolutely do blame Biden. And I forgive him too because he has been a good president and we all are vulnerable to pride and hubris.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

She was a prosecutor and was mostly using court room style arguments that appeal to reason.

And that works great in court and for high information voters, but doesn't connect with people's emotions.

Trump connected with people's frustrations and grievances and basically argued that Harris and Biden were to blame. There's no rational argument that can counter an appeal to emotion.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I could say the same thing about blame shifting.

My opinion is that Biden cost us the election, by running again and not allowing a primary to take place.

But if you want to shift that blame onto yourself and your fellow voters go for it.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

No I agree with you there it was too late.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (16 children)

Or they failed at messaging.

If Kamala would have spent half the time she spent talking about Trump, talking about corporate price gouging instead and how she would go after corporations like a bulldog, voters would have had a place to look for blame other than the Democrats.

Instead her vision was narrow and she mostly just compared herself to Trump.

Yes, she had some good policy ideas. Yes she was backing some other good policy ideas. Yes Biden has been great.

Her messaging still sucked.

Likely because she didn't want to piss off corporate donors.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If that's what you want to do go ahead.

I personally believe in non-violence and will organize and protests using those principles.

The world will watch if Trump's military runs over me in a tank I guess.

Do you see now why people are grieving? And why schools are allowing people time to grieve?

If you're a nihilist and just want to see the place burn you're welcome to start a fight with the military anytime you want. I'm sure I will read about it here on Lemmy.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't know about them because I'm just jumping into this conversation but I wanted a primary a long time ago. Biden said he was only going to run once. He was in no condition to run, his pride got in the way.

Kamala was not able able to connect with working class people. Even if she had good policy ideas she was not able to address the cause of inflation and point to it well. She should have stressed that she would strengthen the FTC and go after corporate price gouging. Rather than spending half of the election taking shots at Trump, she should have looked at people's real concerns and leaned into the fact that she was a prosecutor and could really go after the people to blame.

And we were robbed of a primary by Biden.

And this is the exact sort of establishment politics that people are sick of. And the exact reason why Trump is so popular. In spite of being a total fucking shit heel.

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