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If you want to discuss that go right ahead. I have not made any claim that contradicts that and have no interest in arguing against it. I suggest you do so with someone who has and does.

Maybe that’s the one you want to make but it’s not the one I was commenting on.

The argument is “Muslim majority countries tend to criminalize homosexuality so you shouldn’t support Palestine because it’s likely to do the same”. The current state of gay rights there isn’t relevant to the argument and not what I’m trying to draw a parallel to with the comparison.

It’s a Christian majority though, which is in line with the argument as presented.

Apologies I didn’t mean to imply you were supporting the argument. I could have phrased it better to make that clearer.

That’s a more coherent argument I suppose but it’s a pretty racist one. There’s no shortage of Christian majority nations where homosexuality is criminalized. Would the people making that argument feel the same way about Ukraine for example?

It’s not as if the Jewish view of homosexuality is significantly different from Islam’s. If the only proof they have of anti queer sentiment comes from there fact that there are radical Islamists among them then that same brush could be used to paint Israel just as easily.

No I'm pretty sure they did. Sarcastically dismissing this extremely fucked up behavior as politically motivated sniping is really fucking stupid.

Unless you’re expecting a third game in a series.

Specific aspects of gender roles are what toxic masculinity criticizes, you’re trying to substitute a general term for a more specific one. Toxic masculinity specifically refers to the ones that are toxic, not the fact that men have gender roles at all. It’s, like you said, right there in the name.

My dude, scenes from a Barbie movie are not representative of an entire political movement and I really don’t think your interpretation of those scenes makes for any kind of proof of your claims.

Do you have anything demonstrating the feminist movement supports this shit:

The Duluth Model of determining domestic violence another example. Child support is another. The banning of paternity testing is yet another

Or are you just labeling these things as feminist because you do that with everything you perceive as misandrist?

You’re making a lot of claims about things I don’t think you really have a grasp on. “Toxic masculinity” is not an implication that all men are inherently toxic. It’s a criticism of societal expectations for men that harm them and their relationships.

You’re saying that feminism has seriously hindered acceptance of male masturbation but all you’ve provided here is vague unsubstantiated implications of media bias and a single author’s name. I’m not going to read the entire collected works of whoever Dworkin is to figure out why you think they’re both representative of the entire feminist movement and also hate men wanking it. Give me something tangible here. A quote, a law they supported, a speech, a video, literally anything at all that isn’t just some insinuation that’s only attributable to yourself

I would consider myself a male feminist and I masturbate daily so if the movement thinks that’s wrong I’d like to know so I can stop describing myself as feminist.