uphillbothways

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[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Can We Save the Redwoods by Helping Them Move?"

Yes, we can. While it's easy enough to plant trees, their survival requires a certain amount of work and ecological transformation. Whether moving them ahead of trends already happening in local climates and anticipating where they will be able to exist later, or helping preserve their current ranges, extremely long lived species in particular need stability. That stability isn't going to be found in climates that continue to be affected by human's interaction with the environment.

The air was moist and cool, suffused with the briny scent of the sea. “This is a tree paradise,” Stielstra said. Barnes concurred: “This is a gold mine.”

For how long? For long enough that the mother trees they discuss in the article can become established over hundreds to thousands of years. Absolutely not.

The problem is people.

Could we? Yes. Will we? No.

Humans have always and will always care about their meager lifespans in preference of the longer lifespans of things like trees and species and ecologies. Where they have ability, they lack perspective.

'We can just move them,' they'll say, over and over and over.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

De-desertification by burying clean biomass in increasingly arid locations could be a thing, as could wetlands restoration and a lot of similar ecological enterprises. There's plenty of opportunities for humans to make the planet better. We know how. There's just no will to do so.

It's not that humans can't leave the planet better than they found it, it's that they don't want to.

It's not that humans couldn't be good, it's that they are in practice bad.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

While in complete agreement that it's good the option is there, have definitely interacted with plenty of end users who, for various reasons, really should never.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They get to sell their parts without having to pay all of the repair people and probably getting out of a certain amount of warranty liability. Win-win-win for them.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

mob justice like this only undermines the justice system...

This is far from the worst thing undermining the justice system. It's not even an egregious example of mob justice. But I suspect we mostly agree. I've said all I've got to say about it.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sorry. That could be confusing. Yeah. The murderer should go to jail for murder. Absolutely.

I'd have a really hard time sentencing the victim's family for attacking the murderer.

That was my point. Apologies for leaving that ambiguous in my initial comment.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago

Republicans about to show up ranting about a pizza basement on the Enterprise and shit.

[–] uphillbothways@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

She wouldn't make a dent in the primary and wouldn't even appear in the general. She's helping some reporter make their article quota, that's about it.

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