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When the platform you are on can't seem to figure out its own brand, maybe it is time to move on?

Curious what that would be... I use neither Google nor Microsoft for personal use and I have an msdn, lol.

How did they manage to take many of the elements that could make a good game and just make it..... forgettable? I played it to the end, because I like walking around shooting things. I think that is about it.

LOL, so what? I used to never give disney money. I don't now. But I didn't used to too.

Seriously, why the fuck do people pay the mouse?

And before you all yell ARRRRR. Nope. No need to ARRRR. There is so much entertainment and diversion out there, take away all their IP and it still doesnt matter.

Thats not Gnome. You need to remove the glasses. Hair is not an option. Two eyes, mouth, nose. That's all you get. And you are not allowed to focus on all three, only one at a time can be shown.

By the way theft implies something taken. I responded by saying tech takes away jobs all the time. You suggested that providing services based on publicly available data is some how stealing is absurd. Nothing was taken away. So I tried to relate it to jobs. You said the commons are effected. Yet they are not, as nothing it taken away. You said that coroporations are the bad ones, but local instances are not - so I can run my own instances and do not use the corporate ones, so what was taken?

I just do not understand this as theft. It is absurd.

I stand by what I said. Your first paragraph said it too: AI is not theft. It just is math. The problem is not the technology: it is the corporate interests. So AI itself is not theft.

Buying all the local land in Mexico that previously were surf spots/fishing villages/local hangouts/town squares, and converting them to monoculture farms for export is a similar idea where corporations leverage government to the detriment of people and environment. But we cant blame the technology, its the rampant corportization.

So we are not that far apart, but the issue is not math. It is how it is used.

Yes it is the same. Its always the same. New technology changes how people work. How is the new math any different? Its just a new technology. We are not that far apart, you and I, I don't think.

I am just saying AI is nothing specifically, or significantly, different than any other technological invention in any other period of time. Nothing was stolen or taken away that hasn't been the case every time something new is introduced. It all leads back to the beginning when humans fucked over themselves by inventing a solely owned system of agriculture.

My examples are very real, and were very talked about at the time: you ignored the fact that typesetters were displaced by digital layout and printing. Including all of the machine manufactures, the ink chemists, designers, the repair technicians, the photographers, the dark room developers, the plate makers, etc. All of those jobs went away due to technology. Still I do not see that as theft, its just change.

Tell me, what is it called when you take something without compensation or consent and use it to profit to the absolute detriment of the creator, owner or rightsholder? Such as what? What exactly is getting taken away? What should be compensated? What does someone have to consent about? Are you suggesting that if I learn a tune on my guitar then play around with that tune and create a new one based on what I learned I owe somebody something?

Weird that you bring up the commons, yet the sentence above sounds like you want to make sure no one every shares anything with anyone else and kill culture. But I dont think that is what you mean at all, you mean to say you do not want culture sold back to everyone, right?

Yes I was referring to the 40s. Another real world example was the loss of a job as a data entry person when the clerks/order takers/agents were not allowed to actually use a computer. Those jobs went away. I still cannot see this as theft because that word has specific meaning and I do not think it applies. A tragedy of the commons that says people cannot be creative without compensation? So what about the compensation. That is my whole point. The being tied to money for survival I suppose is theft of free will, but that happened long before AI came about.

And that is the issue: AI in corporate hands does not steal anything. It just changes things, and gives us more of the same bullshit we already have.

And saying I have crappy arguments is not helping you case to make up mythical ideas about how AI is somehow stealing.

Yeah, it's actually a really positive outcome because people really liked the app so they are willing to try something new.

It's just another third party app. But it has made the transition from a reddit app to a lemmy app.

Anything was better than reddit official app which was garbage. I preferred Relay. But for people used to sync, it is familiar and a smooth experience here like they were used to there.

For lemmy I prefer Jerboa an open source app, but sync is free to try as well (although it had ads).

So you are saying automobiles stole the whip makers jobs. Or movable type stole the scribes job. Or the Word processor stole the secretary's job. I simply do not buy the argument that changing technology is theft, it just is what it is.

Its like you are conflating two arguments.

I fail to see the theft. I only see change. Livelihoods have changed since forever. What we do from here is a problem, but it is not theft any more than everything else. I mean unless you want to go back to the source of all the problems: agriculture which kicked off the whole damn mess in the first place.