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[–] brihuang95@sopuli.xyz 92 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Typical of Google to shut down yet another service

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I've full on stopped accepting new Google products, only exception being the pixel phone, but I'll root that if they decide to drop support.

I work in development and am proud to say I have convinced 3 companies now to steer clear of GCP because of their track record.

[–] tal@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I bet someone has made a list.

googles

Yup.

The first item on the field is a search field. The "all" category has 288 entries.

https://killedbygoogle.com/

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That website shows how much Google buys up and then shuts down, centralising it's power even more.

[–] tal@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah, because there are definitely projects Google started on there. The one OP mentioned is on there, and I remember Google Zeitgeist from back when.

EDIT: Not saying that this is comprehensive, but only five entries reference being acquired from elsewhere in their description.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Not to mention that the cpanels, documentation, and APIs for Google Cloud look like they were written by alien robots to be consumed by alien robots. I've never seen any other platform or docs as confusing and pointlessly convoluted as gcloud docs.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're the absolute worst. Doc links will go in circles, redirecting you back to where you just were, API documentation is out of date - or worse it's out of date and doesn't tell you until the end of reading if it even tells you at all.

Not even mentioning how everything is in permanent "alpha" and "beta" state. Things are never finalized so they can get away with changing the definition on a whim and say "sorry it was in beta, now it's in beta5". I had to rewrite Pub/Sub code at least once a month because they changed their spec on that, and that was one of their "most finalized" products.

Fuck GCP, I will actively avoid jobs that code on it now. If you want enterprise customers, provide an enterprise product. This isn't chat where you can rebuild it every year because your marketers are bored. These are enterprise products that companies depend on.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Doc links will go in circles, redirecting you back to where you just were

Right? Who the fuck created this standard? You'll arrive at a doc trying to figure out how to get somewhere and it'll tell you everything except for how to actually get there. It'll finally have a link with the link text being the name of the section you're trying to find, but noooo... It doesn't actually link there, it links to a second document explaining the fucking history of that section, why they named it what they did, the engineer's dog's puppy's name, and anything else to fluff out the doc without actually being useful. Why in the hell would you write a doc about an interface and not link to the relevant interface? I guess it's probably because they completely rebuilt the way that website interfaces work and you can't actually bookmark or deep link to anything. You always end up at the same page regardless of what you bookmark and then you have to manually navigate there. They took all the wonderful working features of the internet and broke them, then made alternatives that are 1000x worse.

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[–] gabe@literature.cafe 69 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They really made the zip domain then dipped out

[–] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 44 points 1 year ago

made the zip domain then ~~d~~zipped out

ftfy

[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I am really thinking of switching to Microsoft for all my cloud needs, including email, photos and cloud storage and online office webapps.

I can't trust that company no more.

[–] saud@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Dang.

But most of these I can understand why they cancelled them.

Google doesn't make sense. They canned some big projects with a large user base.

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just, be prepared for things to randomly not work a few times a day.

As a developer, interacting with their APIs can be quite painful.... as, things are frequently moving around, or temporarily unavailable.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The level of truth this is hurts me to my core.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's like switching from cholera to plague.

Start easily, subscribe to these communities:

!foss@beehaw.org

!privacy@lemmy.ml

!selfhosted@lemmy.world

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[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

After that Ms master key disaster, that's a bold strategy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] krnl386@lemmy.ca 51 points 1 year ago (13 children)

My order of preference for domain registrars is:

  1. Cloudflare (doesn’t support all TLDs, unfortunately)
  2. Porkbun (does have wide TLD support, and has no-bullshit pricing, albeit higher than Cloudflare)
  3. Namecheap. They’re cheap and Canadian… no other reason than just a backup to have.
[–] einsteinx2@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’ve been using Namecheap for years and have been happy with it. Why do you prefer Cloudflare? Is it for easier integration with Cloudflare services? How’s the pricing compared to Namecheap?

Sorry for the interrogation lol

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[–] edgarallenpwn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago

Hopefully Google used promo code "Killedbygoogle" to get 15% more in this transaction

[–] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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CF CloudFlare
DNS Domain Name Service/System
SSL Secure Sockets Layer, for transparent encryption
k8s Kubernetes container management package

4 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 6 acronyms.

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[–] blackluster117@possumpat.io 12 points 1 year ago

I see this bot as useful for new people trying to get into the community. Don't downvote, but provide corrections to whom it may concern. This is a really cool resource.

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[–] randomguy2323@lemmy.kevitprojects.com 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I already move my domains to cloudfare! Great decision.

[–] ozzah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I want to move to CloudFlare too, but I have a couple of .com.au domains that CloudFlare doesn't support.

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yup, I have been using cloudflare for a few years now, and, no complaints at all. Completely painless.

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[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's different about this announcement from the one they made 2 months ago?

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

This one they emailed to people with slightly more detail. You could barely find any official information about this from Google after the last announcement, so it’s good they’re telling people now. Very annoying that I’m being forced into square space if I don’t transfer out before then though.

[–] Seigest@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Well crap

I pretty much only have my domain for my email adress. It's also a back up plan should my career take another nose dive and I need a portfolio. Gsuite was good for all that.

I'm not quite in the loop with best options for that kinda thing. And I been using the email for contract work for over a decade now. So I don't want to give that up. Would cloudflare be good for that as well?

[–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I use Namecheap as my registrar, then split the domain between Adobe for the site (through their CC portfolio builder), and Proton for email. I migrated off Gsuite a while ago, but haven't had any problems since doing so.

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[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I cuurently use one of three registrars: Namecheap, Cloudflare, or Porkbun. Porkbun is my favorite and I will move my domains to them as they expire.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

For Europe and specifically if you need European ccTLD's, inwx.de and netim.com have the largest selection and good prices.

You can see other European registrars on this page but check if they support all the TLDs you need and the pricing, sometimes they have an oddly expensive price for one of them.

Oh and a note about Gandi because it's listed as "cheap" there, they're currently jacking up their domain prices across the board. Until now they used to be sort of expensive, after this they'll be the most expensive by 75-100% than the others.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Killed by google as usual.

[–] loie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm out of the loop on this, do people have a problem with squarespace?

[–] brianshatchet@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They can be very predatory

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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh no.. I just bought a domain for my friend from there, only a few months ago.

I should've used namesilo or porkbun instead.

[–] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 9 points 1 year ago

Not a huge deal, you can always transfer it.

Username checks out

[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good. The less Google does the better the internet will be.

[–] rho50@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are CloudFlare, Amazon or Microsoft any better? Google at least take security (if not privacy) very seriously.

In general it seems bad to have any huge profit-driven organisation exercising significant control over open standards, but I do think that Google is lesser than many of the other evils.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's all big tech. I try to pick smaller companies myself.

It's only a matter of time before cloudflare becomes arrogant enough to be user hostile also.

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