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A community for those who want to end work, are curious about ending work, want to get the most out of a work-free life, want more information on anti-work ideas and want personal help with their own jobs/work-related struggles.

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Date Created: June 21, 2023

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This is not dystopian at all, is it? Humans sleeping in pods. I guess it beats homelessness but this seems like a fail on epical levels (unless profits for these pod companies are what we care about).

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Is gen z intentionally refusing to change their behavior for work, or what is the reason for this?

Kind of think it's cool that they remain themselves.

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Grogon@lemmy.world to c/antiwork@lemmy.world
 
 

If I quit my job and start searching for jobs that provide service to rich people, do I get more money as "tips"?

Just a plain example: If you clean in a 3* Hotel rooms you might find people tiping you about 5-10$/€ or whatever currency the country you work in has.

If I instead now work in hotels for royals, do they tip like 1000$/€,... because its nothing to them anyways?

Both seems kind of weird to me. If I were to have 50+ Million € on my account and earn X million € a year, would I still tip only 5 € to people who clean my hotel room or would I tip 1000 €? I'd somehow feel like I'd just tip a 1000 € anyways if I'd have that much money. Like what would I care.

On the other side tipping a thousand € would be weird to, because if that would be the case wouldn't everyone just work for the rich?

I noticed it myself though, the more wealthy I got the more money I "gave" to people for services. I remember backpacking through Thailand about 15 years ago as a poor student. I was like looking for the cheapest tuktuk driver, even if it was only a dollar less than the other tuktuk driver offered. Now if I go to Thailand I just throw them 5 € in the pocket and move on with my day cause I don't feel like talking about how much a ride would cost they can use the money to buy a snack after it and I make them happy.

At the same time if everyone would do this wouldn't the Thais start working for tourism only and abandon other jobs?

This topic has kind of 2 questions. Because if you tip to much you kill other jobs at the same time. You can't go to lets say Tansania and tip the luggage carriers 10 $ per luggage because sooner or later all the rangers in national parks would quit the jobs and go carry luggage around cause of more money. You know what I mean?

But I still have a weird feeling abut this topic. I would find it disrespectful if I would tip 5 € to room service if I were Taylor Swift. Do they tip at all? Tell me they tip. And if yes, do they only tip 5 €? That has to be weird to them. Do they even have 5 $ banknotes in the pocket lol.

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Another union question..

One major obstacle to forming a union are union dues/fees. I understand these are required to pay for legal, administrative, and compliance needs. I wonder how simple this could get to keep fees down. I know that if the agreement is missing sections the relevant Employment Standard statement takes over. How much of union admin can be automated? Anyone here work inside a union?

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I'm hoping someone with knowledge of collective agreements and unions can help me understand why union members would agree to 2 weeks vacation. Doesn't a union hold more power for negotiation?

This is what I'm reading:

More than 1 year of continuous employment -> 2 weeks

From what I can tell this is less than most regular employers (maybe food industry is like that though).

I'm looking at forming a collective agreement at my workplace but seeing this result is discouraging.

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idk man I just need to vent i guess

my employer "provides" health insurance in exchange for my time and labor, and for that great privilege they take $600 out of my paycheck every month (covers me, my wife, and our 1yo son)

that's half our monthly mortgage payment; it's 2/3 our monthly grocery bill

why?

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This article describes the real reason behind the push back to the office. It's about rich people gambling on real estate and now office buildings are empty.

These same people own newspapers and media channels which is why their crying voices are being pushed.

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alt-text: the words “no ethical production under capitalism” with production underlined. It is next to the ancom flag, and is over a digital art wooden background.

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fuck wages as a concept entirely. I want to do things because they need to be done, because they help the people around me, and because I enjoy them

I don't want people to tell me I'm better than someone else just because I decided to focus on my special interest or fix something that was annoying me or some shit

I don't want to exist anywhere near any system or ideology where they try and measure and pay "hard work", I want to freely do shit I want to do without people trying to measure and dissect it and apply it to their own idea of "value".

I hate it when people refuse to accept help because they feel like they don’t “deserve” it. That just wastes everyone's time, so stop calling people leeches. The point of mutual aid is building structures that help everyone involved, and if you did that right people “using it” and not “giving back” don’t exist, because using it is “giving back”. Every bit of dependence any of us rip away from the capitalists undermines their power for all of us.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17755582

Sean O’Brien, general president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, called out Republicans who oppose unions and big corporations in his remarks at the Republican National Convention, drawing mixed reactions at times from the crowd.

#Teamsters #Republicans #RNC


Summary

  1. Sean O'Brien, the General President of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, expressed gratitude towards the hardworking teamsters and union members in Milwaukee.
  2. He thanked President Donald Trump for inviting him to speak at the Republican National Convention.
  3. O'Brien highlighted the challenges faced by American workers and emphasized the importance of creating a bipartisan coalition to address these issues.
  4. He praised President Trump for being open to hearing critical voices and discussed the Teamsters' history of working across the aisle with Republican lawmakers who support labor rights.
  5. O'Brien also emphasized the importance of unions in advocating for fair wages, benefits, and working conditions, and called out corporate unions formed by major employers as detrimental to workers' rights.
  6. The speaker discussed how companies like Amazon prioritize profits over the well-being of American workers, highlighting the disconnect between corporate elites and the working class.
  7. They emphasized the importance of putting American workers first, advocating for trade policies that prioritize workers, legal protections for workers, and reforming labor laws to support unionization.
  8. The speaker criticized massive corporations for exploiting workers and relying on public assistance instead of providing adequate benefits.
  9. They called for meaningful change to ensure the security and prosperity of American workers, expressing a commitment to fighting for their rights.
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Alarms will return as needed, eventually. But for now? Peace at last

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cross-posted from: https://feddit.uk/post/13812624

JD.com founder Richard Liu warned employees against prioritizing work-life balance during a recent video conference, stating those who "put life first and work second" were not welcome at the company. This stance reflects a broader trend in China's tech sector as executives face slowing growth and increased competition.

Major tech firms, including Alibaba and Tencent, have cut tens of thousands of jobs since 2021. Companies are now seeking younger, cheaper workers and demanding longer hours from existing staff. Pinduoduo, an e-commerce group known for its high productivity and grueling work culture, is seen as a model by some in the industry. In 2021, two Pinduoduo employees died in incidents linked to overwork by colleagues.

Older tech professionals, typically over 35, face the greatest risk of redundancy and struggle to find new positions. Employers often view them as expensive and less flexible due to family responsibilities. A 2023 survey of 2,200 professionals in China's largest cities revealed widespread anxiety about career prospects and work-life balance. Many in the industry report experiencing depression and high stress levels.

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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world to c/antiwork@lemmy.world
 
 

For context: I work security at a Golf/Ski resort. We are told to be "proactive" with noise complaints, and I was trained to give 3 strikes, Strike 1: friendly warning. Strike 2: More serious warning, followed with a noise complaints fee. Strike 3: Escort off the resort.

Back in February, I received a write-up for a customer complaint claiming I beat on his door, told him he was "being a dick," and that I told him to "Shut the fuck up " and that I told him I'd administer a noise complaints fee if he didn't quiet down after designated quiet hours. Apparently he was "so pissed off" he sat in the lobby for 2 hours to "avoid trouble"(on camera apparantly) and then left early due to my actions, and we had to refund his entire stay.

Here's the thing, though: he lied through his teeth because that never happened (at least the way we interacted. They never showed me this video of the guest in the lobby) .

Here's what actually transpired: The front desk called me, and said room 1017 was complaining about noise down the hall. As security, it's my job to handle that stuff. I asked his neighbor to quiet down, politely, and received no issues. However, the guest who complained was actually being much louder. I could hear him blaring music, his kids laughing and yelling, and a bunch of banging coming directly from his room. I was told by my boss to be "proactive" about noise complaints to prevent any complaints from happening and that I should get them under control beforehand. I was told that even if there were no complaints, if I heard noise like this, I was to issue a strike. So I did just that. I gently knocked on his door. He asked what the issue was and extended his hand to me (I shook it). I politely informed him of our noise policy; I didn't even issue him a strike. All I said was that it was after quiet hours, and then I kindly asked him to quiet down. I told him I didn't want to ruin his stay, and that while no complaints for him existed, I wanted to avoid any potential issues, and then I politely told him about our 3 strike process, and made it clear that he wasn't getting one, but that I would have to if he got a complaint later. He said, "Ok, ok, sir, I don't want any trouble. I'll make sure to quiet down." I smiled and said it was all good and that I wanted him to enjoy his stay. Then he closed his door, and I left. That was the extent of things.

So during the write up my boss told me they had no camera footage or witnesses to this event, but he "did some research" and apparently I brag about being aggressive to guests to other employees, and that the guest waiting in the lobby and leaving early was an "extreme reaction". He also told me, "we have NEVER done noise complaint fees."

He asked if I remembered that night. I crossed my arms and focused on his filing cabinet to think, and apparently, he "felt threatened" (???) by that, which he said was more proof I was lying and that I was "unusually aggressive." It devolved into an argument. I browsed the SoP book (security officer protocols) a few weeks later and it said, right there in the book we are told to follow, that we DO give out noise complaints fees, and I pointed that out to both my bosses and was told they'll "change it". It was, however, never changed and is still there to this day.

Fast forward, and I go from working 3 shifts a week to 2 to 1 to none for a whole month. I only recently started working again after asking if I was going to be scheduled. Plus, I specifically asked the day of the write-up if I could use my personal car to patrol. I was told yes. I've seen other officers do it, my managers do it, even the owner said it was OK. For 4 months, I was using my car with no issue. It's hard to miss, I'm in uniform, people know it's me driving, yet suddenly, tonight, my boss told me he "had no idea" I was using my car all this time, and that it "wasn't allowed". I told him even the owner said I could, and that all we needed were magnets to slap on our cars, which I called my manager for, and he mysteriously didn't remember the conversation. Am I being singled out here? I'm always the last to know of any changes as well.

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There's a lot of talk about inflation and its causes. Is it corporate greed? Supply chain issues? One clear base cause of inflation less talked about is having an inflationary currency supply. Any other inflation caused by supply chain issues, corporate greed, lack of market competition, etc is just added on top of that. Fiat inflationary currency is a rather new invention in terms of the human timeline. In the US, Nixon is the start of it. Central banks aim for 2-3% inflation in "good years". The money supply expands, the portion of that supply a single dollar represents, and therefore its value, decreases. This isn't a conspiracy, it's government policy, and both parties gleefully support it because it benefits their rich donors.

Think of it: in the last 50 years, everything has gotten cheaper to produce thanks to increasing mechanization, outsourcing to cheap labor/low regulation countries, and extremely efficient supply chains. Yet so many things "cost more" than they did 50 years ago. Even basics like bread. What used to be 5c in the US in the 50s now costs $5.00. How is that the case? Shouldn't it cost less? Where is that "extra efficiency" going if not to lower prices? The answer: bread is the same value it's always been, the money has gotten less valuable. This is how they keep working class people running on a treadmill, never able to achieve economic mobility.

Inflationary currency devalues the currency you worked hard to earn by increasing the supply. It hits the middle class the worst because they have more of their net wealth in cash, often in the form of emergency funds, savings, and putting together enough money for a down payment on a home. Rich people have their money in assets which aren't harmed by currency inflation. Actually, even worse, it inflates the value of those assets! If the dollar loses value (all other things being equal), it takes more dollar to buy a share in Amazon, just like it takes more dollars to buy a loaf of bread. Poor people live hand to mouth, so their net wealth is not impacted much, but inflationary currency prevents them from saving and "moving up". If you want to identify the causes of increasing wealth disparity, the inability of people to save money and theft of value from the middle class via money supply expansion is a major one.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15914243

The academic workers at UCLA and UC Davis will join 2,000 already on strike at UC Santa Cruz.

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