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I realize I've spent over a year in an organization where things kept falling apart because, ultimately, people in the organization just plain didn't like me.

It started, perhaps, when I brought up that HR's onboarding process made me uncomfortable because it involved a third-party sending out a third-party email to go to a third-party website to entire our personal information. Since this was a training by the larger corporate IT department, and we had just finished talking about the dangers of phishing, I thought it was a good time to mention it.

Mistake.

The next week I was visited by someone who took issue with, "not what I said, but the way I said it". Lesson: don't embarass HR in company-wide trainings.

Anyway, after a few similar call outs by me, I was labelled a trouble-maker, sidelined, ignored, and mistreated. This is an organization, I note, that assiduously avoids contradicting or discomfiting superiors in ANY way. That is deffos not my style.

Anyway, my question really isn't about my toxic workplace, but what you learned about YOURSELF by working in a place that didn't like you.

I'll give you two more stories:

1

When I just graduated from school, I started working with a team model. I was paired with someone with fewer certifications, and I was to lead us boldly on our mission. The person I was assigned was a very beaten-down older, brown woman in a field dominated by young white women (seemingly universally with long, straight hair). She seemed to be universally disliked and disrespected by everyone. Because I was incompetent both at my job and my Spanish (sabo kid in denial), this woman essentially did my job and HERS and still got treated like absolute shit.

She invited me to an event that had nothing to do with work, an event for an organization she volunteered for where she was on the board. People treated her with respect and, in return, she was bright and bubbly. I saw a completely different side of her that night.

Lesson: Where we are beaten down, we get small. Where we are supported, we flourish.

(Kind of an aside, she was from a small country, and when I told her I was visiting, she INSISTED I go see one of her family members; he turned out to be an extremely well placed person in the government; she wasn't royalty, exactly, but she had a social prestige in her country that was unsustainable as a middle-aged brown woman with an accent in the USA.)

2

I was working retail at one store. I'd been there for maybe two years. I always lived in fear of being fired, and when I made mistakes that I worried about getting me fired, nothing happened. I learned that, ultimately, what mattered is if people liked you, and, there, people liked me.

I eventually had to leave because of some restructuring but the manager found me the EXACT SAME POSITION at a nearby store. After a few weeks, I noticed people did NOT like me. Conversations were kept short, nobody ever volunteered to talk to me,. I got along with exactly one cashier, who was an awesome dude. It wasn't a horrible experience, I was allowed to do my job and I did, but there was always an empty, hollow feeling.

Then the original store invited me back and it was like night and day. "Oh, so this is how people act when they like you." I'd almost forgotten. I loved going into to work to see my work buddies and I loved shooting the shit with them during downtime.

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[–] speaksintv@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I had a very slow decline over a couple years. Basically a senior VP got a married male coworker drunk at lunch and then they "stopped by VP's condo real quick" where my coworker was SA'd.

The coworker tells everyone, HR gets involved, coworker gets a huge promotion reporting directly to the VP, and suddenly coworker "think it may have happened differently" when I asked him what in the gd fuck he was doing.

Over 2 years my team of 8 + director bailed. I stayed thinking I'd outlast the shitty leadership and be a shoe-in for the vacant director position. Instead I got put on another team where I trained a handful of actually nice people on how to work with a data warehouse but leadership was still soured on me. What broke me finally was when my new director gave a promotion related to the job I'd been teaching everyone to another person. Also after hours one day while I was teaching a different coworker how to code and my new director came by to ask if it was done. I told him it wasn't but it would be as I was letting this person take the reigns while I watched. My director told me "just quit bitching and get this shit done."

At our standup the next morning I resigned in front of him and the entire team. The calls I got for MONTHS after that still help me fall asleep some nights. I'm talking about being asked to debug entire log files and providing admin credentials for the database that I "couldn't remember exactly" but they were "stored somewhere on [a cluster of 16 different servers".

So I took a lateral move to another agency where I had the same pay but since then have more doubled my salary and been promoted 3 times in 7 years.

What I learned was actually from something my douchebag director told me: "you can't make people act how you want to" which was a dig at me but I've thought about it a lot. I wanted my agency to see the wrongs, see the people fleeing, have my coworker be honest about the SA that he almost resigned over, and I wanted to be vindicated. But that’s just not what happened.

If you're in a toxic place where someone like my old VP has the ear of leadership and turns them against you, just bail. I knew my time was coming when I'd turn the corner on a city block and see my building and I'd feel my heart race. It's always good to fight the good fight and we all need to but you've also gotta realize when it's best to walk away and do what's solely best for you, not some higher broader moral principle.

It also taught me a lot about workplace politics. I shouldn't have been so open about about my displeasure and the betrayal of the coworker getting everyone involved and then doing a 180 when he got a promotion to be quiet. I've learned to keep the smile on my face and be more covert; otherwise the people you don't like see it coming.

A funny part is that within a couple years of me resigning my old agency fired all the top brass - president, CIO, top VP and the VP who SA'd the coworker and that coworker also resigned. I think something blew up or happened again and it wiped that place out. It's also seen a 70% turnover in the time I've been gone with 50% of that being within a few years of me leaving. It's also never quite recovered and they've had to bring in "morale experts" because people breakdown and are seen crying in the hallways.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

So your key mistake was in not supporting your co-workers decision to trade in their sexual abuse for career advancement?

What a shit show.

I have to agree with you on bailing. There really is nothing to be done once the narrative against you is set.