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All of western history people cared about how they look.
Now people just go out wearing some advertisement for some stupid company.
Self respect and respect for the community is gone.
Being concerned about what strangers think of you & your attire is the opposite of self-respect.
Depends, I would say it's a show of respect
I'm aware other people are around and I'm going to present myself in a way that is un-offensive to those people. And not just other customers, but the staff as well
Does it matter at McDonalds? no, McDonalds is a pretty casual place where you would expect people to show in casual attire; be that pajamas because they've been being lazy all day, suits because they're at lunch during work, or dirty clothes because they've been doing manual labor... whatever
But showing up to a nicer place in casual clothes basically says to everyone, "I have about as much respect for this place as I do Wal-Mart or McDonalds"; it can also say, "I don't have much respect for myself" too. As in, "I'm too lazy to even put on clothes so I just walk around in my cookie monster pajamas".
And why should I care for what other people decide my attire tells them?
You don't have to but we don't have time to get to know every single person in the world on a personal level, and the way someone looks can tell you a lot about them
I always heard it as, "you wear a hat to be associated with other people that wear that same hat".
You put on a cowboy hat so that people assume you like big trucks and country music.
You're free to walk around looking like human trash but then also you shouldn't be surprised when people assume you are human trash. Remember, you don't always just represent yourself. You represent other people in your social group. Like if you're a teenager you represent teenagers.
The assumption is that all the nerds that play cards at comic book stores are fat, dirty, and stinky because enough of the nerds that paly cards at comic book stores showed up fat, dirty and stinky that this became the stereotype.
Had they all shown up in suits we'd probably have a different opinion of them. It doesn't matter if they're nice people, we have no idea, we didn't get the opportunity to talk to them... all we know is that they look mega-gross so we assume they're all mega-gross. And now, if you admit that you like playing cards at comic book stores, we'll all assume you're mega gross too
So, it really would have been helpful if enough of them had cared what others thought of them enough to clean up a bit so they didn't destroy the reputation of all the other people who wear that same hat
And if you're a business owner, if you let people look like this in your business, it can hurt your business. There's a reason we all assume Wal-Mart is trashy as fuck and that's because the people shopping at Wal-Mart have a tendency to go there looking trashy as fuck. So much so there use to be a website dedicated to looking at all the insane ways Wal-Mart shoppers dressed
I can work from pretty much anywhere as long as I have a connection, so most of my attires are comprised of PJ pants, opinionated r-shirts and flip flops. Evidently, I have other clothes, but unless my wife wants to go out somewhere that has a strict dress code (and by strict I mean that they won't let you in unless you're wearing the bare minimum) I barely wear any of them. Then there's fully formal requirements, you just won't see me anywhere near those. I guess I'm old enough to not care at all.
Mental take. Humans are fundamentaly are pack animals that are built for connection and community.
The most important thing about being human is working with others. Caring about what others think of you and you caring about them is of vital importance.
I agree that carrying about others and showing empathy is vitally important, but I am not the least bit concerned what you think if you're judging me or others simply based on what we're wearing, assuming it's not intentionally offensive or indecent.
People who are more concerned about how they are perceived by others than who they are as a person have a problem and likely don't know it. Dressing stylish or fancy is not itself evidence of self-respect, and being overly concerned about how strangers perceive you can be the exact opposite.
We aren't talking about being fancy or stylish.
We are talking about people dressing poorly. Sure if you want to wear gym clothes at the gym or walking around fine. Additionally I haven't got issues with tradies getting a sandwich on a lunch break but they shouldn't be wearing that to a sit down dinner on a date after work.
But we are also quite smart animals, the dressing up shit is just something we have imposed on ourselves(which origins from rich people btw), we, with time can learn to disregard that bullshit to a certain extent