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Starlink burns multiple retired satellites daily from its over 10,000-strong constellation

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 86 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Retrieving the deorbited satellites — which weigh roughly 573 to 650 pounds (260 to 295 kg) for first-generation units and 1,764 to 2,756 pounds (800 to 1,250 kg) for second-generation units — is technically impractical and financially unviable, according to the company. Hence, the incineration technique.

So that's 148,980 to 325,000 kilograms of electronics burned. Literally hundreds of tons of e-waste being incinerated by single corporation in just half a year.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 58 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They've also been shown to have a not insignificant impact on the ozone. We're so fucked

[–] Fuckswearwords@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Does puncturing through our upper atmosphere during escape have any non insignificant effects? I've seen some of those videos of launches at night (when the solar wind lights up everything) and it sure looks like we are burning holes in our ozone layer when we do that. Just asking you cause you seem somewhat knowledgeable.

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 2 points 1 day ago

The increased frequency of rocket launches also hurts ozone from what I read in the studies done on satellite burn ups.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay so I'm just into chemistry and astronomy as a hobby because I love learning, no expert. My understanding though.

The launches definitely aren't great but they're actually not the biggest issue. The problem is the satellites, when they're deorbited, generate 50+ lbs of aluminum oxide which just floats on the upper atmosphere for years (like 30 years). Aluminum oxide is an especially potent catalyst for ozone depletion. The mega constellations that Musk wants would require multiple satellites to be deorbited daily, quickly piling up the aluminum oxide. The low orbit internet satellites are relatively short lived. So he wants either Kessler syndrome or enough aluminum oxide to eat the ozone in a year

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

At least we can have the ctharsis of staking them out in the sun and watching them burn like the vampires they are.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's a lot of electronics waste. Estimates for 2025 e-waste into landfills was around 65 million tons, and it continues to rise each year. It's not an either/or, we can complain about both, but the scale difference makes the first seem a bit less dramatic. We should do something about our throwaway society.

[–] Revolver1864@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago

I work in IT and am resposible for e-recycle runs. I take the laptops home, re install windows, and give them away free to any poor person i come across.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not just incinerated, incinerate red in the upper atmosphere while directly heating it.

They burn up from friction, it's not just the flames the whole process is heating the planet and who knows how many things it's fucking up we haven't noticed before.

But the most important bit is if they don't know how to get them down, they need to stop sending them up. It's not rocket appliances

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There’s no way burning satellites are putting enough energy into the atmosphere to heat it up. They cause other problems like ozone degradation and serious aerosol pollution.

Rockets on the other hand put a lot of greenhouse gasses high up in the atmosphere, including incredibly potent greenhouse gasses like water vapor. These launches account for a meaningful percentage of all emissions.

[–] Steve@startrek.website 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Hundreds of tons of random natural space dust hit the atmosphere daily

[–] SpicyLizards@reddthat.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Space dust has a different composition to artificial satellites however

[–] musicalphysics@discuss.online 1 points 3 days ago

More than a hundred tons of meteors daily. Many meteors are made up of heavy metals. Iron. Nickel. And so forth.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I imagine most of that weight isn't the actual electronics, but the housing.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a feeling if I lit truck load of old computers on fire in a quarry or something, arguing "When you think about it most of the e-waste was just metal PC cases so it doesn't count" would not fly in court.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was not the point of my post.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Just that the number may be quite inflated, when referring to electronics. It's still bad. Especially as someone else pointed out that the housing may be problematic as well.