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His behaviour sure doesn't help.

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[–] Boingboing_r@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You're either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn't go back much further.

And worse of all. Bush didn't even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.

So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 14 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I still think Reagan takes the title.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I think reagan did the most lasting damage

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Reagan deserves every ounce of hate he gets. I dont wish dementia on anyone except him. Rest in piss.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

He was the worst at the time but Trump is far worse. Trump's corruption is unprecedented. Reagan would be called a communist if he ran today. Reagan's answer to Americans complaining about illegal immigration was amnesty and legal permanent residency for all.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Reagan was crazy enough to sit down and work with people like Tip O'Neil (democrat speaker of the house). I can't imagine any republican doing that now.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

I feel like this was mostly because they hadn’t completely solidified the echo chamber yet, if Reagan were president today I dunno if he’d be better or worse

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

They sit down and work with PACs all the time.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

There's no fucking way Bush is worse than Trump. It's not even close.

[–] Boingboing_r@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No child left behind leading to a nation without critical thinking. Guantanamo bay. Imprison who the fuck you want without consequence. Making it law to invade the ICC if any American soldier is ever held to accountability. Crashing the entire global economy by relaxing laws on banks and investors. I mean Bush was pretty awful. Trump is just dumb as bricks walking in the same path set by Bush.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The bank thing that lead to the eventual collapse was a Clinton thing.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

its not a contest and its pointless to think otherwise. Anyone who thinks positively of either is an uneducated degenerate dumbass who should never vote in any election until they completely update their worldview at best

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I say people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes seeded the culture that led to the modern right wing.