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Large Gmail archive needs migrating over. If possible, I'd need to receive emails sent to my Gmail account (even if I can't answer them from that Google email adress).

I recently switched from Gmail to Proton but I'm already looking to switch again.

I just want a mailbox that's safe and nice. Much like Ente really. I tried Tuta because they are "friends" but I only saw negative feedback...

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[–] XLE@piefed.social 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

In the increasingly slim chance you aren't just pretending to be ignorant, the official Proton statement makes it clear that all Republicans are the better option, so yes this is praise of Vance.

[–] Steve 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

At the time the Republicans were making some noise about holding big tech accountable. Proton thought they may have ment it. But then big tech made the right donations and all that fell apart.

Nothing anyone at Proton has ever said, has indicated general support for Republicans or Rump.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes they have. In fact if you read the other section I bolded for you:

the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

As a bonus, here is Andy Yen praising Donald Trump for appointing a corporate-captured Republican judge

[–] Steve 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And at the time, several years ago, that was true.
Again, nothing any of them have said, in any way, is any kind of general endorsement of Republicans or Rump.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It was never true, despite your historical revisionism.

I just linked the original post of Proton CEO Andy Yen praising Donald Trump for you too.

[–] Steve 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

And again, (how many times now) he praised a specific action. And at the time the Republicans and Rump were making noise about going after big tech. That's not revising anything. For a good month or so, it looked like they might actually do it, to at least some limited degree. Far more than the Democrats anyway.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you actually believed this after four years of the Trump presidency, you are either extremely gullible or dishonest in your framing.

And yes, praising the actions of Trump and his admin is equivalent to praising the entities themselves. Don't be obtuse.

[–] Steve 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

On no! Not at all! Today it's absolutely clear Rump was soliciting ~~bribes~~ donations from the big tech players.

And you're still over stating it. He praised an action, not actions.
Hell, I'm the guy who keeps calling him Rump, and even I can say he did the right thing getting rid of the Penny. That was long over due.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What part of "the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses" sounds like the praise of just one thing and not a blanket endorsement

[–] Steve 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Seriously?
I get that we spend a lot of time online, but the world has much much more in it than big tech. There are at least hundreds of other things out there.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, in the context of him selling a tech product and in the context of him having nothing else to say about Trump, Vance, and the Republican establishment, his praise is clear.

Focusing on corporate Dems, ignoring appointees like Lina Khan, and requiring them to change, was the only condition in the original statement. Which is ironic because now that you admit Republicans are bad (and I repeat, everybody knew this back then, just read the comments), Dems have gotten worse overall so his statement still remains.

[–] Steve 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Let me try to rephrase your argument here:
In the context of ignoring literaly everything else in the world, praising this one thing, is literally praising everything Rump does.
You see how that doesn't really work?