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Recently, I was telling some older people about what a Rickroll was, and I mentioned why I thought Never Gonna Give You Up worked so well. Some of the reasons were that it was instantly recognizable in the first second of the song, that Rick Astley doesn't look like you'd expect if you'd only heard the song, that he dances the whitest white guy dance ever, and that the song itself is actually a pretty good song.
My brother heard that and immediately strongly disagreed with me, saying that Never Gonna Give You Up is an objectively bad song, that everybody agrees, and that's why they hate being Rickrolled.
It topped the charts in 25 countries when it first came out, but it's a bad song? I guess that can happen, but I don't think so in this case. What I think happened is that the song has been associated with a negative meme so prominently that some people judge it by that rather than on its own merits.
Anyways, my point is that I suspect that the Rickroll meme has influenced my brother so that he cannot enjoy a song that he'd otherwise like. I think there are parallels to the well-done steak thing. Sometimes, memes can ruin otherwise enjoyable experiences, even if they're just jokes.
Man I've had some disappointing steak. I've finished some crimes to steak and lied through my sore jaw about how good it was. I've had steak served so rare it was still cold in the middle. As if it had been cooked until barely warm on the outside, from frozen. Despite that establishment swearing it only ever serves fresh, never frozen anything.
I've never once had a steak so bad it made me not ever want steak again.
I think I broadly agree, that while the joke in isolation is inoffensive it's been the frequency with which that joke is used in a context where it literally "yucks someone's yum" that has characterized it so negatively for me. That's a very interesting perspective, thank you!
You're right of course, but the difference is that done Steak is simply not a pleasurable experience as opposed to Never Gonna Give You Up