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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/49832828

There are three potential reasons for members of this forum to have a look at https://vutuv.de/

You are tired or annoyed of LinkedIn.
You are searching for a job or a candidate.
You are technically curious and want to have a look at the inner workings of such a project. We use everything Phoenix Framework has to offer and connect to the Fediverse.

vutuv compared to LinkedIn is not closed gated and it is free for everybody. You can read every posting and visit any profile without having to register first. Have a look at my profile at https://vutuv.de/wintermeyer

All the data is hosted on our servers in Germany. Nothing is send to the cloud. No third party cookies.

Please give it a try and please do give me feedback. Here or if you find a bug or want to post a feature request in our GitHub repo. Thanks!

^quote from developer about vutuv https://elixirforum.com/t/vutuv-de-an-open-source-linkedin-alternative-built-in-phoenix/76166/

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I support the idea of a federated employment platform. However I see no reason for an employment platform to have social features.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have only received jobs for the last 10 years via social features. I hate it, I don't enjoy it, but networking and people skills are the way to a good network. I started blogging and recruiters started pinging me regularly. It has a place

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats great, you can network and have people skills on social media and link from there to your professional bio. There's no reason for them to be in the same place.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except, I don't want those people in my regular circles on my regular accounts, I keep work and personal separate. I'd prefer to have a separate account, just like this that's linked to my professional life. This fills that need for me

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So create a separate account. There's no reason it needs to be on a dedicated platform.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So you want to separate things so they're all in their own little spheres... so that there's less dedicated services?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where would I put my CV and professional details, my skills and abilities? I don't know man, I see some real value here, what's the harm of it?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Where would I put my CV and professional details, my skills and abilities?

On a separate, professional site.

what’s the harm of it?

The harm is filling a professional website with a bunch of noisy nonsense no one cares about. I don't need to see your federated OnlyFans profile when I'm looking for an employee.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't subscribe to users from there then, and even then doesn't sound like this would be federated?

On a separate, professional site.

That's quite literally what this app appears to be trying to do.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

doesn’t sound like this would be federated?

Then why is "fediverse" in the title of the post?

That’s quite literally what this app appears to be trying to do.

Except it's not, it's trying to be another social media platform.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes? I don't understand the point you're trying to make now. CVs, skills, etc sound specific to this so they wouldn't be federated. Social features like posts, replies, comments would be, as they match ActivityPub, they're not extending the protocol or anything for it.

So I really don't understand why you're so upset at the app. If you don't want the professional stuff then it's as simple as not signing up for an account. If you don't want any social things from them then it's the same as any activitypub: defederate or block.

You don't like it, I think that's obvious, but I don't understand the multi-comment thread where your argument seems to be "I don't like it so it shouldn't exist". You don't have to understand why other people find it useful for it to be useful to those other people.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make now.

The point is professional platforms should not be filled with whatever whims come across your mind that day. It is a 100% completely redundant function, in the wrong place.

I really don’t understand why you’re so upset at the app...I don’t understand the multi-comment thread where your argument seems to be “I don’t like it so it shouldn’t exist”.

I don't understand why you think I'm upset. You seem to be equating the number of comments I write with some sort of level of anger. In which case, I must ask why you're so upset? I just think it's dumb.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes you are very passionate if you've left so many comments about this, which is why I go back to my base question - why not just ignore it then if you find no use out of it?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I could ask you literally the same question.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Simple, I think it's a great idea and so I care about it.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 21 hours ago

You should try not to get so worked up about it.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know we love to hate on LinkedIn, but honestly there are plenty of reasons to want social features about employers and jobs. Reviews, salary discussions, union organization and all such stuff that employees could leverage against employers, for instance.

Of course that's not what LinkedIn is largely used for because it's full of employers trying to brand themselves or influencers trying to make an image for themselves. But it could be different, I think.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

sounds like linkedin x glassdoor, really. except people on glassdoor are assholes too.

maybe it cancels out.

[–] applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

theyre one company now, so they get to be assholes together

[–] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago

oh that's not an exploitable combination of properties at all

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Reviews, salary discussions, union organization and all such stuff that employees could leverage against employers, for instance.

These are all things that could be designated to one or the other, as appropriate. There's no reason they need to be in the same place and every reason not to.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not sure I understand - you think some of those things don't belong on the fediverse? What do you mean "one or the other"?

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

1 = social media

"the other" = Professional business platform

I think these things should be separate.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like that's an unnecessarily narrow view of what the fediverse can be. The fediverse is not only for any single particular social networking use case, like micro-blogging (Mastodon) or forums (Lemmy, Pyfed etc). It can be much more than that, and all of it at the same time. There's no reason why the fediverse should restrict itself to only certain social media use cases.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The fediverse is already broken up across way too many usecases, such that I have to have a profile for videos, a profile for podcasts, a profile for my blog, a profile for communities, etc. etc. and they want to add another one.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 3 points 13 hours ago

On that I agree. It'd be nice with a more universal platform.

[–] phar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Right? In what way does it help anything? Only makes things worse.