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Would young men be rioting in the streets if they didn't have video games to pacify them?

Hear me out.

We are seeing record levels of young men unemployed and living with their parents: The future for them is bleak. Saddled with college debt, they can barely get a job that pays miimum wage, while living independently is forever out of reach.

I feel like at other points of history, there would be more social unrest, but things are exceedingly calm given the economics.

I was watching a video by Healthy Gamer, a gamer bro-turned psychiatrist. He points out that video games are very addictive and seductive because they MIMIC accomplishment. You can grind to get to the next level, you can gain new skills, you are continually put on a treadmill of constant progress. It's very satisfying in a hollow way, satisfying in a way that might make you forget that society has nothing to offer you but debt and homelessness after you followed all the rules.

Are video games weapons of mass distraction, the metaphysical equivalent of a million Christians being fed to a million lions every day?

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[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why didn’t this collapse when books became cheap and available?

Do you read as much as you game? Do you really think most people find books and video games equally appealing?

data shows that sperm counts have been dropping since the 70s, and native birthrates have been below replacement since the 80s

You're conflating fertility and teens having sex.

The drop off in teen sex is way more recent than either of those, started in the last decade or two.

This really seems like ever more frantic motivated reasoning.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I read more than I game.

You know, accusing someone that disagrees with you of participating in bad faith once is one thing. Accusing them of participating in bad faith and desperation makes me think you once gave someone an ultimatum to pick between videogames and you, and you got dumped as a result.

Maybe you should calm down. (See?)

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you don't know what something like motivated reasoning means, maybe check before you start complaining about being accused of bad faith arguments?

I say desperate because your "arguments" have gotten progressively sillier. Maybe you really don't know about endocrine chemicals and how long they've been around but seriously comparing the addictive/time suck nature of video games to books is utterly nonsensical.

(And no, I haven't dated a gamer. I and the folks I date tend to spend our time outside. Though it would be a marvel for gender equality if I had to give some nice lady a video game ultimatum!)

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If I'm being honest, I'm pretty sure you've decided videogames are to blame and have literally no interest in opposing opinions. That is motivated reasoning.

You are rejecting anything that doesn't fit your worldview outright. You don't think books can be as addictive as videogames, so you just reject that I spend more time reading books than playing games. Then you call me silly for suggesting it. You are obviously here in bad faith.

There is no point discussing anything with you.

[–] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You are rejecting anything that doesn’t fit your worldview outright.

By bringing evidence and time lines? Like what, I should've agreed that endocrine disrupting chemics are to blame despite being around for decades before the fall in teenage sex?

Or I'm supposed to seriously believe that reading is as common among teens and youth as books? Seriously? If you have any teacher friends, you might bring forward this uhh, interesting idea. Just be ready for some laughter and to explain that yes,it was a serious question.

I mean, on books being as common as books, is that actually a serious thought? Maybe google for half a second?

so you just reject that I spend more time reading books than playing games.

That didn't happen? Believe it or not, you're not every or even average youth. Weird huh?

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

I should’ve agreed that endocrine disrupting chemics are to blame despite being around for decades before the fall in teenage sex?

Considering they directly affect hormonal development, yes. It would take approximately a generation for the effects to begin. Probably more than that for the effects to become noticeable. Which lines up with the data pretty well, considering rates of sex have been dropping steadily since the 80s. Your assertion that that happened "in the last decade or two" is just you being wrong.

As far as books, you asked me a specific question: Do I read more than I game? I said yes. You said that was stupid and evidence of me being silly. Don't ask for an anecdote and then treat it as data.

And yes, the fact that you are repeatedly using the phrase "motivated reasoning" pretty much out of the blue makes me think you've got some guilty conscience going on. Feel free to have a bad day, Jack Thompson.