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[–] username10400@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (10 children)

I am actually kind of surprised he has lasted this long. Rivera in Washington has probably been possibly the most unremarkable head coaching tenure I can recall in the NFL. It's almost like you forget he even exists at times

[–] ArmiinTamzarian@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Hey he won a division title, with a losing record which funny enough is the second time it happened to him but he did

[–] TheFencingCoach@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’m not surprised. I think Snyder favored him because he at least got the team to the playoffs in his first season. Scandal after scandal started hitting Snyder and I think he was happy with the stability Rivera brought.

With Harris coming on board, he’s probably going to want to start making his mark on the team, and my guess is in the next few years we’re going to see big changes to the team and organization to rid itself of the Snyder poison.

So I wasn’t surprised to see him retained this long, but I’d certainly be surprised if Harris doesn’t clean house after this season.

[–] PeteF3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I also don't see much point in firing him mid-season, unless things just go completely off the rails and the locker room revolts, but keeping a steady locker room seems to be one of Rivera's strengths.

[–] worried_consumer@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Do you think he’ll rebrand the commanders? Even with the name change it feels so Snyder

[–] way-too-many-napkins@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, he got them to the playoffs at 7-9 lol. I’m not sure I’d feel good about that year as an owner

[–] JayJax_23@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It honestly set them back in a way. Had them drafting too late to get a QB and they had to spend 2 years in QB limbo trying Stopgaps that didn't work and relying on Heincke who is respectable but has a too weak of an arm to bring you over the jump

[–] AndrewHainesArt@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

How did it set them back? They were at best a 7-9 talent for the last decade. As a franchise they constantly find single talented players and then surround them with dogshit. Or have insane injury luck with those guys. RGIII, Young, Trent Williams situation, BR Jr getting shot before his season started lol, etc.

If anything he’s kept them on pace without the usual crazy bad luck, especially in a division with 2 contenders during his entire regime. Harris will bring in a reputable retread coach that will be his Doc Rivers of football. I’d be ready for more mediocrity but at least it’ll feel hopeful for a little bit.

[–] IlliterateWinner@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Set them back because they missed out on drafting who? Mac Jones? Justin Fields? The only worthwhile qb in that draft was picked at the #1 spot

[–] Technical_Customer_1@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Tua? Herbert?

Dude already had an 0-2 count when he whiffed on Chase Young.

[–] brain_my_damage_HJS@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He’s a less memorable version of Jeff Fisher.

[–] dbniwo@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean Washington was a dumpster fire for a while. Rivera isn’t great but he’s a big step up from dumpster fire

[–] JEspo420@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They are no better off with Ron then they were with Jay Gruden before him, at least Gruden has made the playoffs with a winning record, it’s the same dumpster fire just a different owner

[–] Braktash@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That is precisely why he lasted this long.

[–] Strick1600@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Lane-Kiffin@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It’s a perfect analogue to Norv Turner’s tenure in DC from 1994-2000. Unremarkable, mediocre, never atrociously bad enough to tank, but also keeping his job in part due to the instability of a drawn-out ownership change.

[–] Floridamanfishcam@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hey maybe that's a step up from the embarrassment we are used to hearing about in Washington?

[–] kravisha@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Absolutely. He brought a shred of respectability to the organization. But not a whole lot more.

[–] ChiSp0@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

That’s what I was thinking. He isn’t terrible just checked out. He could be replaced with someone far worse…

[–] J-Fid@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And that's all Snyder wanted when he hired him.

[–] captainsmoothie@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Snyder desperately needed someone with credibility, since his franchise had none.

[–] BatteredAggie@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I already forget David Culley was the head coach of the Texans. Before the season it was the worst hire I’ve ever seen, and then he actually kind of over performed, but still sucked really bad.

[–] agreeingstorm9@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

So I did a Turkey Trot today and overheard a conversation about Kirk Cousins. Guy says Cousins is like unsalted mash potatoes. You're not mad that someone served them but you're not excited about it either. You'll probably eat them but won't be thrilled about it. Rivera is that kind of guy for coaching. He's not great. But then he has teams that don't have a lot of talent. His teams don't overperform their talent level but they don't seem to ever underperform either. You never really look at his teams and say, "A team that is built this way should be way better than this." He seems to beat the teams he should beat and loses to the teams you don't expect him to beat and doesn't usually get embarrassed badly, avoids controversy and no one really cares.