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[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Oh? But why?

Several trials are under way that could provide more definitive evidence. The scientists are also investigating why the vaccine may help to protect cardiovascular health. One possibility is that shingles may increase the risk of heart and vascular diseases, and so the more effective vaccine reduces this risk. Alternatively, the vaccine could be having broader effects on the immune system that suppress inflammatory proteins.

Dr Hugo Pedder, a research fellow in statistical modelling at the University of Bristol who was not involved in the research, said: “A randomised trial would be the best way to confidently answer whether recombinant vaccines do provide the benefits seen here versus live vaccines, but until such a trial is done this study provides some of the best-quality observational evidence supporting an effect of recombinant v live vaccines for cardiovascular outcomes.”

OK, so they don’t really know. At least they are pretty upfront about saying so.

Still, a pretty cool discovery.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Either way, get the shot if you're in the age range. Shingles is no joke.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It starts at 50 and you can get shingles earlier than that. Like, at 39.9. 😔

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i had it at 20, after severe stress from semester of college. eventhough it was a small rash, it seem to be more intense than normal, some people have more widespread rash than mines but they dint have lasting damage(i 10 blister scars). i remember it gave me neck and lower back pain making it stiff asf. and the blisters became scars, and permanent nerve damage near the scars. and yes i had mild PHN for a couple years, and permanent nerve damage as well. apparently you can get pain in a numbed area too, which has its own term.

apparently i remember i had the chickenpox, also records showed i got the Chickenpox vaccine in the late 90s too.

shingles is more severe the older you are, or if you are immunocompromised(they usually get a more unusual rash)

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

i had it at 20, eventhough the rash was small, i had significant nerve damage in the area. i think i was severely stress from school for 2 semesters, which made the symptoms more intense. also most people dont get stiff back or neck/lower back pain, which i had for a whole week.(i let the blisters fully develop and burst before i could see a doctor)

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago

Oh, no argument there. I was just interested in the pathology.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Maybe people who voluntarily get the shingles vaccine are more health conscious in general.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

its only eligible to 50+years old. people have tried to get it younger but they either have to pay out of pocket, and find a pharmacy/doctor that will approve it(most will deny it including insurance)

[–] Duranie@leminal.space 4 points 1 day ago

I never previously considered getting the shingles vaccine because my mom told me that I was the only one in my family that managed not to get chicken pox as kid (I was born long after all my siblings ended up getting it and never showed signs.)

Years later when getting a job at a hospital, they went over my vaccine record (literally some dates and notes my mom had written on the back of an envelope in the early 80's) they decided to run a titer. It came back positive. Their guess is that I had such a mild case that it wasn't identified. Getting the vaccine is on my to do list now!

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It’s part of the normal vaccine schedule in most developed countries. it’s not something that most adults actively seek out, but is simply recommended and taken as a matter of of course.

What I meant to say is that, unless you’re some kind of idiot who actively refuses it, then you’ve probably had it without realizing it. Active “health consciousness” isn’t necessarily a factor in the decision to take it, but, rather, a matter of routine.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People in precarious living situations may miss those normal health screenings and vaccinations. And neglect their health in general. So it might not be a choice of being less health conscious, as much as having other priorities.

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I'm as neglectful in going to the doctor as anyone, haven't been in 10 years. But having seen several family members suffer with shingles I booked appointments at Walgreens to get the vaccine. Cost $300 or so for 2 doses IIRC. But without seeing how crappy shingles is I probably wouldn't have been motivated.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

While nothing you say is technically untrue, it conveniently and very carefully sidesteps the point I was trying to make about choice in vaccination, to wit:

The people you’re discussing aren’t missing vaccinations out of choice, but the inability to get vaccinated due to lack of access. that’s hardly the same thing. that speaks to systemic issues which create an entirely new and endemic problem: allowing diseases to spread among populations based on the “haves” and the “have nots“— medical treatment based on class (or designation based on some defined “otherism”). Or, in other words: medical fascism.

And to not forthrightly acknowledge that that is not the crux of the issue is to either be incompetently blind to it, or to be actively complicit in the enactment of it as a collaborator.

And, yes, that is an accusation.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ooh ooh, I'm ACCUSED!

I am well aware of the fuckuppery of medical access in the world as a whole and the US in particular.

Including Trump still being alive. And having the nuclear codes despite his obvious dementia.

You made the claim that it's people's unhealthy CHOICES that lead to their illness and early deaths, and he's the obvious counterargument to that.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ooh ooh, I'm ACCUSED!

Ok, chill the fuck out. First of all, my comment was not directed at you personally, but speaking just generally— unless you happen to be one of the asshole medical professionals telling people not to get vaccinated, in which case: fuck you

I am well aware of the fuckuppery of medical access in the world as a whole and the US in particular.

Then where are we having this conversation?

You made the claim that it's people's unhealthy CHOICES that lead to their illness and early deaths, and he's the obvious counterargument to that.

I also extensively discussed the issue of people‘s lack of access to vaccines and how Trump exploded the economic issue that causes this issue for now 8 million more Americans - mostly children - in the last six months alone due to recent funding cuts, but thank you very much for ignoring that fact…

Any other dumb shit you wanna blame me for that is Trump’s fault?

But heaven forefend a billionaire have to pay taxes… perish the thought!

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

You must be extremely confused to even think I might be antivax.

Or pro-billionaire,

Or unaware that EVERYTHING is Trump's fault

(Goddammit, DEATH, get your shit together!)

We appear to be on the same side of every topic you're squabbling with me about, so I can only conclude there's some confusion in the thread and you're attributing comments to me I didn't make.

[–] zout@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd say getting sick increases your risk of a stroke or heart attack in general, but I would also expect that to be the first thing that's checked.

[–] eurodyne@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

According to the article, it was the first thing they checked.

But, apparently, there were also additional benefits for those who simply didn’t get shingles which remain unexplained.

That’s the interesting part