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[–] WorthStory2141@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He was one of our most important players, he was brilliant for all of last season.

I don't know what happened this season.

[–] working-acct@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ten Hag switched to an insane high press two-10s system leaving midfield even more exposed than before, leaving Case completely exposed having to do the work of two men. Then after Case misplaced one pass and we conceded he gets blamed for being shit when in reality it was the change to an unworkable system that practically doomed our early season results.

[–] ParkerZA@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't say it's insane, the idea was for Shaw to tuck into midfield in possession and be that extra man in case of turnovers. But... he got injured after two games.

[–] uchiha_boy009@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you. Finally someone has some ball knowledge in this pathetic sub.

[–] ParkerZA@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's funny how people don't even consider that tactics can affect a player's form. They think Casemiro being late to challenges is because he's in the space of a few months lost his legs, and not because he's been running for two players.

r/reddevils is just as bad.

[–] PowderEagle_1894@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lots of minutes with little to no rest due to no replacement and the team are pressing higher mean he is asked to press more intense than before. All combined to him rarely being fit for all 90 mins and wouldn't be in the position to defend counter as he and Ten Hag want

[–] firechaox@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, he’s also always been a motivation based player. I think at Madrid that was sort of papered over because there always is so much pressure, and he’s always been so questioned, and real we’re always in a position to compete. But if you go to his early career, people thought he was lazy at São Paulo, and at Porto he played a lot better in the CL (and I’d say even over his real career he was always better in big games). I imagine that it’s not just physical but also mental in this case.

[–] Money_Scholar_8405@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think at Madrid that was sort of papered over because there always is so much pressure,

I could not disagree more. There is massive pressure when the stakes are high yes - But there is also a reason why Real has never won a treble or isn't as consistent in the league, priority number one is the CL.

[–] firechaox@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, he always performed in the CL though. League and copa were always a bit more disappointing, because they are lower stakes.

[–] Money_Scholar_8405@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, he always performed in the CL though.

Not disagreeing with that. It is just that in a club like United with its current situation and the level of competition every other game is a big game - Slip up and goodbye to CL qualification as actually ended up being the case. That and the fact that there were no quality backups like Ceballos always meant that the move was high risk. Case should have picked a move like Inter, would have been perfect

[–] firechaox@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I think every game is high pressure… ish. You’re realistically not really competing for titles (because the PL has become basically Man City’s competition, and they are generally just outright favourites to win it). I think that’s the big difference tbh. One is much more concrete, than a placement in CL, and the financial rewards that come with it.