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Jokic is 28, Giannis is 28, 2-3 years from now whatever teams they’re on will still probably be top dogs.
I'm not too sure about that. 3 years from now they'll both be 32 during the playoffs and while most players still have most of their prime athleticism at that age I'm not sure that goes for near 7 footers. While Jokic's game isn't based on his athleticism he'll still have to work harder to maintain his current level
I think they’re both in the Steph/lebron category where they’ll be able to carry the load well into their 30s. Wether or not that is good enough to beat the young cores coming up I don’t know
No way for Gianni
People said LeBron would have a steep decline once he lost his athleticism too
Giannis isn't quite on LeBron's level but he's also taller and longer
I feel like most star players at that age have become such veterans of the game that their BBIQ more than makes up for their athleticism.
But the other Bucks will be OLD, not sure there's any way to renew that roster
I think Giannis is going to have to move over to the 5 at some point in his career. People don’t realize how important Brook Lopez is to giannis and how irreplaceable he is. A top 5 rim protector who can also consistently hit the 3? Good luck finding another one of those.
My hot take is that the Bucks should trade Lopez while his value is still high, he’s good but old and limits their defensive options since he has to drop.
The Bucks need an identity change, Lillard can’t fight screens like Holiday does and that means Lopez has to come out and their defense falls apart.
Future Evan Mobley has entered the chat…and wants to say he’s staying in Cleveland! Giannis can come to him.
I was at Celtics-Bucks on Wednesday and it was legitimately stunning that Brook Lopez was the best player for Milwaukee during that game. If basketball had a "Hall of Pretty Good", he'd be inducted on the first ballot.
Giannis signing with the Pacers after his contract ends confirmed
I like this plan. We really need a good power forward
I was at Celtics-Bucks on Wednesday and it was legitimately stunning that Brook Lopez was the best player for Milwaukee during that game. If basketball had a "Hall of Pretty Good", he'd be inducted on the first ballot.
There was at least three times where he was the 3 in a 10-3 run
He's transformed into the unicorn that every team wants. A good defensive C that can hit 3s.
He’s the Nets all-time leading scorer and should have been DPOY last year. If he puts up a couple more DPOY seasons, he’ll have at least a minor argument for Hall of Fame
He won’t have an argument for HoF lol. He’s a phenomenal role player but someone who’s never made All-NBA should not be in the HoF.
Who from this list of 17 guys in the HoF without all-nba honors would you remove? (cut off being 1988 because that's when they went to three teams, there are more if you life that restriction)
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/least-amount-of-all-nba-to-make-hall-of-fame
The query only considers 1988 and on... At a quick glance almost all of those players have made all-nba before 1988, and the top guys are Euros where their international achievements come into play unlike Brook.
If he had gotten like 3 more all-stars and maybe an All-NBA selection during the years where the center position was shit he could probably make it as a 2nd or 3rd ballot HOFer. I love Brook, but i just don’t see him making it unless the Bucks win 2 more rings with him as their best defender.
I’m biased but Triple J definitely deserved it even though it was close and BroLo had a monster season. Regardless, you can’t really use “should’ve been DPOY” to his resume, and he needs at least one before we start saying “a couple more DPOY seasons”. He’s pretty old so I don’t personally see it happening, but that doesn’t take away from his talent and impact.
Yeah it doesn’t really matter much now, but they were very close in defensive presence. I think the easy tiebreaker should have been games played. Lopez did it for 78, JJJ only 63.
Please don’t think I hate JJJ lol, I’m a Michigan State alum so I’m a big fan
He's the nets all time leading scorer??? Wtf lol
Well pretty much 7 full seasons (9 total but with injuries), averaging between 18 and 20 a game.
That should be about 10.000 points.
I like to think that he’s widely recognized as one of the very best role players in the league and even then I still think he’s underrated. He’s really that good on both ends. Doesn’t get the hype because his blocks don’t go into the 8th row and he’s not pulling up from the logo or throwing down thunderous dunks, but my god is the guy good at basketball.
Who's also on a totally reasonable contract. I mean hell they originally got him for the bi annual (like 3 ish mil around that time).
Going to have to poach jjj then. Or maybe wemby develops nicely and giannis to the spurs.
I agree. Brook Lopez is a great rim protector and also a great shooter. Would love to have him on the Mavs...
KAT to Bucks after he absorbs all of Goberts powers
Seems like it now but things change quickly. It’s typically rare for a 5+ year window unless there’s a big gamble made somewhere to reset things
I was going to say... Bucks, Celtics and Nuggets
I do suspect the Bucks may age out of contention by then (not an indictment on Giannis, just the rest of the roster which is already old)
Well then hell, so will the Celtics