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[–] nsfwpenguins@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I can see Kai's thought process... I can also see the team's pov. Mental health is complex and we have barely scratched the surface on how to treat it. It's not like allopatric medicines for physical ailments where you pop a pill or have surgery and things get fixed. Therapy depending on the practitioner lies in the gray area of pseudo science and science and depending on who you consult approaches and results can be vastly different.

[–] NbaAllDAYger@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean there is a reason therapist have to go to therapy before they become therapist.
Shit is super expensive here in europe. I agree with your point as for Kai i really hope he gets through the grieving period he is going through.

[–] CALICOandME@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a therapist (who thinks every therapist should be required to undergo therapy, at least during the schooling process), US therapists are not required to attend therapy

[–] NbaAllDAYger@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

"US therapists are not required to attend therapy"
I didnt know that, i remember having to drive my cousin a couple of time to his therapy sessions which was far from where he lived, the cost was so high he had to loan money from the bank, since it was mandotary i think 3-4 times a week.

[–] idontwantnoyes@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mental health is difficult for everyone. Black community is far behind when it comes to embracing it. Men are far behind as well.

If you need to force 4 sessions / hours of talking about your situation and feelings to move forward in your career, I think thats more than fair. At the very least to protect everyone.

And if he wanted to meditate again he needs it structured so its happening consistently

[–] Frozen_Shades@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The USA has been in a mental crisis for almost 30 years now and nobody wants to address it.

[–] CreatiScope@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, someone above was saying that it's "fucked" to say he needed to attend therapy before training camp. I hard disagree. I think it's practical and ethical for a team to wonder if this guy is going to be a danger or a bad influence on the rest of their guys. I don't want a guy carrying a gun on the team plane around, the same way I don't want a dude going through an undiagnosed mental health episode or a drug problem near the team.

[–] angelansbury@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I said this in another comment below but:

As a therapist, I'm curious if the team picked someone out for him (my suspicion) or allowed him to find his own therapist.

One of the first things we learn as therapists is that training and modality isn't as important as the relationship btw. therapist and client. If Kai felt forced to go and couldn't even choose who he saw, it's no wonder he felt like it wasn't helping.

[–] nsfwpenguins@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The only info I have is from the video and it seems like the team picked one for him. Also I bet it would violate CBA if they cut him the moment he expressed his issues or chose not to use team assigned therapists. With the trade request, they got a ready excuse and they cut him after that, which is a shitty thing to do, but what can you expect from a hornets org that welcomed Miles Bridges back.