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I just got hit for a ton of eth 3 meta wallets drained. Anyone heard anything or could help point me in the right direction of what to do? No idea how they accessed my funds.

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[–] AlabamaHaole@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Don’t sign shady smart contracts, enter your private key online, or store it using pictures on the cloud or a password recovery service.

[–] GulibleFox@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (11 children)
[–] AlabamaHaole@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] mjbmitch@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

That’s LastPass. That company has been plagued with security issues for years. Password managers as a whole aren’t anywhere close to what they are.

[–] GulibleFox@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Well that answers the question

[–] AdZestyclose5199@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Being “secure” is relative. Would I store my Facebook password there? Sure. Would I store the password to my life savings there? Definitely not.

[–] pompousUS@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Keepasss Open source

[–] N_GHTMVRE@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Depends on the password manager. With something like KeePassXC, only you have the encrypted passwords file and it's not on some server.

[–] CumbrianMan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Great, but if KeePassXC is on an online device then it’s vulnerable to being hacked.

[–] jeffreythesnake@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You can just store a copy of keepass along with your file on a USB and access it that way, never has not be online.

[–] Lifter_Dan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

KeePass DB is vulnerable if they can crack the master password. If your master password has enough entropy that it would take so many million years to brute force, then you'll be fine.

[–] MeowMeNot@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Keepass DB can be cracked. https://medium.com/@andreabocchetti88/unlocking-keepass-a-comprehensive-guide-to-crack-the-database-74a2593d676a

I kept a few seeds in my Keepass, I have since removed them after someone at work warned me about this.

[–] Lifter_Dan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

That link describes hashcat which uses some of the methods I'm referring to, it's dependent on the password quality. Crappy password will be quick.

It doesn't decrypt it, but tries many combinations of words etc encrypted to compare against the hash.

Even with a good password, I never would want anyone storing seeds in keepass, anything on the computer is a no for storing seeds.

[–] DigStock@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Anything can be cracked this way, this is just a bruteforce of the master password. It can take 300 centuries to crack using NSA servers if it's a strong password.

[–] invaderdan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope no never absolutely not.

Just a couple weeks ago I saw a thread where keepass was the culprit.

NEVER USE A PASSWORD MANAGER

[–] ScionoicS@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] invaderdan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Edited my comment, as it was not clear what I meant.

[–] ScionoicS@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You went from saying "absolutely never use a password manager" and further down the thread you say you're using your foreskin.

Now you're back tracking that all to pretend to be right?

That's absurd!

[–] AlternativeBadger923@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

1Password has never been hacked and their architecture is solid. You are the weak link though.

[–] Neophyte-@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

no

you might have a key logger on your pc, so the password manager is uselss

never enter a seed phrase into a computer, always write them down fromm a hw wallet

there is no real secure option for pc only unless you formatted, linux distro, crypto wallet software install with no internet, create the wallet, write the seed phrase down, format the drive / never use it again

hw wallets just make this brain dead easy though, why is this still a conversation in 2023?

[–] EvilLost@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

Absolutely not.

[–] invaderdan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

NO!

If you have stored your key on a password manager, it's time.to get a new wallet. Consider yours compromised.

[–] GulibleFox@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

People can make mistakes with everything. It's just about reducing the probability of making the mistake.

[–] bonerJR@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Never store a private key in a password manager

[–] Fearless_Locality@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

They are generally secure. Any hack on them has never gotten clear text passwords.

LastPass seems to be the one who gets hacked the most and I use that term very lightly because it's usually just user emails

Which don't get me wrong is bad because then you can be at Target of spearfishing but you should not shy away from using a password manager because at the end of the day if you use it correctly it's going to be more secure than whatever you're doing now

[–] RelapseHS@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea what meta mask is but I’m constantly seeing posts like this. What’s making it so easy for people to lose their eth? I only use crypto for gambling so I’m probably just ignorant to whatever meta mask is used for

[–] AlabamaHaole@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Metamask is a popular wallet you can use to send/receive/store your crypto on their respective blockchains. Metamask isn’t the reason people are losing their funds. It’s because people don’t properly protect their private keys.

[–] zac47812@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And because they sign shady permissions left and right without thinking and/or revoking them when they are done using the platform.

[–] danarchist@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And email themselves their seed phrases and their email is still xX360noskoperxX@yahoo.com with pw hunter2

[–] jcpham@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

pw *******

Were we supposed to be able see a password, I think reddit blocked it out

[–] I_Hate_Reddit_69420@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The UX is terrible though. not necessarily the fault of metamask and more EVM related, but you mostly have no idea exactly what you are signing when interacting with contracts. Go tell your mom or grandma to revoke contracts after interacting with them. Is that really the web3 we want? This makes the web experience worse, not better.

[–] CoolioMcCool@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah, the reason for all the posts mentioning metamask is simply that it is the most popular with wallet for people who use smart contracts, and using smart contracts can be risky.

[–] mehdital@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Cloud with 2 factor auth is very safe

[–] SnooCalculations1742@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Sadly no. LastPass was hacked last year, and a lot of people have had their wallets drained. So having your seed online is never truly safe.

[–] neb_flix@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Lol, all you people parroting the LP hack… if any of you read the incident report, there was only very basic metadata like company names, veiling addresses, etc which was not tied to specific users. No encrypted notes or credentials were taken at all. That’s not how PWM’s work.

[–] mehdital@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is that? Even if I give you my password for Google you won't be able to sign in to my account.

[–] SnooCalculations1742@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but if you have your seed phrase in an online container, and the container gets hacked, the 2FA doesn't do anything. The hacker can recreate your wallet from the seed.

[–] mehdital@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I am talking about storing the seed in the Google account, aka Google keep. The likelihood of Google getting hacked is much lower than my house burning down and taking with it all cold storage.

[–] Crypto_Cat_34_32@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What is the likelihood those people had either reused their master password elsewhere or that the password strength was very weak?

[–] mehdital@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Google will automatically block any sign in from a new device, so even with a compromised password, access is not granted.

[–] Crypto_Cat_34_32@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lastpass hack made 2FA completely irrelevant because hacker got access to the password databases directly. They can at their leisure try to bruteforce passwords for all of these accounts.

[–] mehdital@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

what accounts?

[–] seems-unnecessary@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Im not sure if thats the stupidest thing you saod in your life. But it definitely is the most moronic thing i have heard all month. Cloud with auth? Lol idiot.

[–] mehdital@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People really have no idea about cyber security these days

[–] AlabamaHaole@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You’re not convincing anyone by being snarky…

[–] AlabamaHaole@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Have fun with that buddy.