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I'm a school bus driver and a majority of my colleagues smoke. Some things will never change.
At least switch to vaping. It's 95% less harmful, especially if you go with an open mod and not sketchy gas station liquid.
But it's illegal in my country
Well that's idiotic unless cigarettes are also illegal.
It's a "would somebody please think of the children"-thing because of vape flavours
Ah, even more idiotic then.
Indeed. Cigarettes can of course have flavours along with snuff products because why does anything need to make sense. The European Union is also trying to bust the balls of our legislators over this, but they just keep saying they'll do it tomorrow perpetually.
Also I'm sure candy flavored alcohol is cool too.
What do you mean it's less harmful? You're pulling in smoke of course it will be detrimental for your lung. Saying it's less harmful is just a blatant example of self-gaslighting
You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the whole process, and your opinion should be discarded as the ignorant rambling it is.
OK but the 95% are straight up pulled out of a place where the sun doesn't shine
I'm not going to defend the number provided, but I will note that many health authorities state that Vaping substantially less harmful than smoking. Smoking kills 1 in 2 people per that linked article. If vaping takes it down to less than 2 in 100 people, their percentage would have weight.
But we don't really have the long-term data on vaping. While I might concede with vaping being less detrimental to the lungs than smoking, I am still skeptical towards people saying vaping is a lot better. Smoking doesn't kill you in a short amount of time, but it has existed way longer than vaping, so of course we have the data.
Would you say having one shot of liquor is less harmful than drinking a bottle? Or no, because you’re still drinking poison, so, clearly gaslighting yourself.
You don't inhale smoke when vaping unless you're doing something very wrong. You don't even inhale vapor.
It's atomized glycerin, propylene glycol, nicotine, and flavorings (unless you vape unflavored like me).
Someone needs to look up the term vaping, which comes from the term vapor, there’s a reason vaping isn’t called smoking. Vaping helped both me and my wife eventually quit smoking and vaping altogether. It was a great stepping stone to getting clean
The funny thing is that it's not even vapor. The liquid is atomized, not vaporized.
Technically both, the heating unit is an atomizer which then super heats the liquid mixing it with an air stream to become aerosol vapor